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re: The best estimate for OM's penalties I have seen thus far....
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:02 pm to DistrictDawg
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:02 pm to DistrictDawg
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Yep. You caught me I'm an Ole Miss fan.
I'm just genuinely curious. I swear I haven't seen a thread by a MSU fan talking about the upcoming season this entire offseason.
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:03 pm to blacknblu
You've got a point. But to think we will lose +30 scholarships is dumb. I'd rather be given the death penalty
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:03 pm to DocHoliday11
The "nana-nana boo boo" was just to rustle your feathers, and it obviously worked. 
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:05 pm to DistrictDawg
If they even do any of these, they're likely to consolidate them. The NCAA prefers to hand out a blanket punishment rather than add them all up, which essentially means a death penalty in most of the more egregious NCAA investigations. So it's highly unlikely that all of these would be applied individually.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:06 pm to DocHoliday11
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But to think we will lose +30 scholarships is dumb.
It's the greatest college town in America though! Do you even need scholarships?
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:07 pm to DistrictDawg
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24-36 scholarships
4 years of probation
2 year bowl ban
Show Causes for: Nix and Harris
Suspensions for: Kiffin, Freeze, and Matt Luke
"Conservative estimates" my arse. But even if it's a third of that, OM will have very serious issues.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:10 pm to texag7
Not if the boosters stay
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:14 pm to Larry
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I'm just genuinely curious
No you aren't. You're an idiot. The whole rant knows this...
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:17 pm to Hardy_Har
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No you aren't. You're an idiot. The whole rant knows this...
The WHOLE rant.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:17 pm to Hardy_Har
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No you aren't. You're an idiot. The whole rant knows this...
And Larry just got bitch slapped! Will he take it like a porn star!? We'll find out after these messages from our sponsors!
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:20 pm to Hardy_Har
Speaking objectively, though there may be a bit of bias, but if you were to look at it objectively, you would see that my observation is fair.
I have reputable sources that say that there are things going on in Oxford that'll make the Penn State situation look amateurish, you'll be seeing it in the news in the next month or so.
I have reputable sources that say that there are things going on in Oxford that'll make the Penn State situation look amateurish, you'll be seeing it in the news in the next month or so.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:21 pm to DocHoliday11
I didn't know 24-36 meant 30+
Your math skills are obviously lacking doc.
With 13 different violations you can't just pull a number out of your arse with out supporting it with facts. The only way you can do it is to break each allegation down, compare it to previous cases, assign a scholarship value, and then total them all up at the end. It's fair, you just won't admit it.
It's not like the NCAA would be like, "hey, they have so many violations that we will make each one only count for 1/2 of what its worth". If anything it would multiply each violation because of the shear volume of the allegations.
When you really look at it, OM had the head coach named in the NOA, 4 assistant coaches, 2 former assistant coaches and 8 boosters. When you add in Barney Farrar and John Miller, who are both in the athletic department and helped Tunsil receive improper benifits it doesn't look good at all.
In Summary:
- 13 allegations total
- 8 level I allegations
- 2 level II allegations(one of which is a failure to monitor, which is a step below lack of institutional control.
- 3 level III allegations
- Hugh Freeze listed in the NOA where he was caught bringing disassociated booster Walter Hughes with him and Assitant Coach Maurice Harris to an in home visit with a recruit.
- 4 current assistant coaches listed in NOA(thats 44% of Freeze's current coaching staff). They all were in contact with disassociated boosters, helping set up improper benefits between boosters and recruits.
- 2 former assistant coaches listed in NOA. They both helped fix ACT scores for 3 different recruits.
- 8 disassociated boosters (SMU had 9)
- Over $15,000 in improper benifits, and don't act like the NCAA thinks that they found all the improper benifits, they know that they could probably multiply that number by 1 or 2 factors of 10.
Your math skills are obviously lacking doc.
With 13 different violations you can't just pull a number out of your arse with out supporting it with facts. The only way you can do it is to break each allegation down, compare it to previous cases, assign a scholarship value, and then total them all up at the end. It's fair, you just won't admit it.
It's not like the NCAA would be like, "hey, they have so many violations that we will make each one only count for 1/2 of what its worth". If anything it would multiply each violation because of the shear volume of the allegations.
When you really look at it, OM had the head coach named in the NOA, 4 assistant coaches, 2 former assistant coaches and 8 boosters. When you add in Barney Farrar and John Miller, who are both in the athletic department and helped Tunsil receive improper benifits it doesn't look good at all.
In Summary:
- 13 allegations total
- 8 level I allegations
- 2 level II allegations(one of which is a failure to monitor, which is a step below lack of institutional control.
- 3 level III allegations
- Hugh Freeze listed in the NOA where he was caught bringing disassociated booster Walter Hughes with him and Assitant Coach Maurice Harris to an in home visit with a recruit.
- 4 current assistant coaches listed in NOA(thats 44% of Freeze's current coaching staff). They all were in contact with disassociated boosters, helping set up improper benefits between boosters and recruits.
- 2 former assistant coaches listed in NOA. They both helped fix ACT scores for 3 different recruits.
- 8 disassociated boosters (SMU had 9)
- Over $15,000 in improper benifits, and don't act like the NCAA thinks that they found all the improper benifits, they know that they could probably multiply that number by 1 or 2 factors of 10.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:23 pm to DanMullins4Life
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I have reputable sources that say that there are things going on in Oxford that'll make the Penn State situation look amateurish, you'll be seeing it in the news in the next month or so.
Has Bucky been munching on young sapling wood?
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:25 pm to DistrictDawg
I didn't read that whole message but 30,31,32,33,34,35,AND 36 are all 30+ 
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:26 pm to DistrictDawg
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24-36 scholarships
That's not happening.
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4 years of probation
Not happening
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2 year bowl ban
Not happening
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Show Causes for: Nix and Harris
Possible
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Suspensions for: Kiffin, Freeze, and Matt Luke
Possible 1-4 games
Likely going to be 18 scholarships over 3 years, a 5 year probation, and a 1 year bowl ban.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:28 pm to DanMullins4Life
That finger fricking thing was made to look worse than it was.....it wont carry over to Ole miss
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:31 pm to LandBearShark
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God what a bunch of dumb fricks.
Agreed. Ole Miss' staff should've known better or hid it better.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:42 pm to Hardy_Har
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No you aren't. You're an idiot. The whole rant knows this..
Struck a nerve. We all know that MSU fans care more about whatever Ole Miss is up to than their own program. It really is one of the saddest things in the SEC.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:44 pm to Larry
I wish we could all just get back to supporting our OWN teams and hoping that they win football games. I don't really wish utter demise on any program, so all of the MSU butt-hurt is kind of alien to me.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:45 pm to DistrictDawg
You left off the most intense punishment. It's the one that freeze and co. will give State this year in Oxford 
Oh, and we will get hit with more than we asked for in our response to the NOA, but it won't even compare to what you fools have dreamed up over at elitedawgs. You can either deny that and argue it now or accept it now and not blow your brains out when it comes out. Take it easy, loser 
Oh, and we will get hit with more than we asked for in our response to the NOA, but it won't even compare to what you fools have dreamed up over at elitedawgs. You can either deny that and argue it now or accept it now and not blow your brains out when it comes out. Take it easy, loser
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