re: Tennessee is 44-44 since Phillip Fulmer stepped down in 2008

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I thought we were talking about recent history? I love you guys who want to go back 150 years to tell me about 2016.

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Boo hoo.

Mzzou just doesn't match up well against the Volunteers.

In 2003 UT had the misfortune to come under the control of a very very very very very bad AD, Mike Hamilton. This culminated in him firing Coach Fulmer to hire Kiffin. It was NO-BRAINER, Athletic Director 101, that Kiffin would bolt. His buy out as I recall was $400K. Then Hamilton hired the USELESS FRAUD Derek Dooley.

Those days are done and we look to have a good year and a bright future again -- as one of the elite programs in CFB.

Some of ya'll sound pathetic.

Walt

UT '81

I was wrong. UT was winless in 1891.

Other winless seasons. Just a sample.


1967 Wisconsin Badgers football team
1968 Wisconsin Badgers football team
1973 Florida State Seminoles football team
1973 Iowa Hawkeyes football team
1977 UCLA Bruins football team
1979 Florida Gators football team
1979 Richmond Spiders football team
1955 Alabama Crimson Tide football team
1950 Auburn Tigers football team
1949 Mississippi State Maroons football team
1996 Duke Blue Devils football team
1948 Texas A&M Aggies football team
1946 Florida Gators football team

LINK

During ALL of those years, UT won at least 4 games.

And UT has winning records against Michigan, Ohio State and FSU.

Walt

UT '81

I-A Winning Percentage 1869-2015 (147 years)

(Teams not qualifying for the table are listed at the bottom.)
Rank Team name Winning
Percentage Games
Won Games
Lost Games
Tied Games
Played
1 Notre Dame 0.73216 892 313 42 1247
2 Michigan 0.72988 925 331 36 1292
3 Ohio State 0.72236 875 320 53 1248
4 Oklahoma 0.71979 861 319 53 1233
5 Alabama 0.71817 864 326 43 1233
6 Texas 0.70951 886 353 33 1272
7 Southern Cal 0.69942 813 334 54 1201
8 Nebraska 0.69876 880 368 40 1288
9 Penn State 0.68516 856 382 42 1280
10 Tennessee 0.68047 820 371 53 1244

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Click on "Compare major teams by winning percentage over any span of years" in the "Major Team Win/Loss Database" section.

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I did what you asked.

I know off the top of my head that Majors won 67% of his games and Fulmer won 75%.

That takes us back to 1976.

Aren't you at all embarrassed?

Walt

UT '81

I did note that those stats were up to the last 50 years. I also noted that UT's heyday was in the 40s and 50s, so obviously, UT won enough prior to 1960 to currently place in the top 10. Nobody said otherwise. The point is that since 1965 (50 years), UT has not been a top 10 program, and in fact is 5th in the SEC in winning pct and 6th in number of titles. So in the lily white days before SEC teams integrated, UT was very good. Since then, fairly mediocre as compared to the SEC overall.

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The '40's seriously don't count because of World War Two.

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You say the '50's were a "hey day" time for the Vols.

They were not.

1955 Tennessee 6–3–1
1956 Tennessee 10–1
1957 Tennessee 8–3
1958 Tennessee 4–6
1959 Tennessee 5–4–1
1960 Tennessee 6–2–2
1961 Tennessee 6–4
1962 Tennessee 4–6

Pretty undistinguished after Coach Neyland left the scene.

Walt

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Oh ok. So the 1920s and 1930s were the UT heydays. So 80 to 90 years or so ago. I can believe that. Thanks. All I knew for sure, because I looked it up is ................ Where Tennessee ranks the last 5 years, 10 years, 15 years, 20, 30, 40, and 50 years, according to statistics at Stassen. This, UT fans, is reality. 2010-2015: Tied with Middle Tennessee State at 75th in the nation, following Tulsa, Duke, Ball State, Rice. Trails 10 SEC teams, including Missouri. 2000-2015: 35th in the nation, following Northern Illinois, Toledo, South Carolina, Missouri. Ranks 8th in SEC. 1995-2015: 19th in the nation, behind 5 other SEC teams. And this includes your best years since the 1940s and 50s. 1985-2015: 13th in the nation, behind 4 other SEC teams. 1975-2015: 18tth in nation, behind 4 SEC teams. 1965-2015: 14th in nation, behind 3 SEC teams.

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Like Bammer, UT has been blessed with two pretty good to outstanding coaches.

Coach Neyland won 171 games. His WP was 82%.

Coach Fulmer won 150 games. His WP was 75%.

UT won 100 games during the 1990's.

Even Johnny Majors who I never liked won 67% of his games.

'01, '04' '06 and '07 were pretty good years. Dooley won 15 games in 3 years and he lost to KY which was playing a QB with his arm practically in a sling.

Kiffin went 7-6 but came within a blocked field goal of beating Bammer. Bammer did not score a TD that day.

The stats you posted don't support the assertion you made earlier. But that is not a big surprise. It is an opinion that you hold that the stats don't support.

You remind me a lot of Gator fans. Bad losers -and- bad winners.

Walt

UT '81

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It is an opinion that you hold that the stats don't support.

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2010-2015....

1 Alabama 0.87805 72 10 0 82
2 Oregon 0.85185 69 12 0 81
3 Florida State 0.82927 68 14 0 82
4 Ohio State 0.82353 56 12 0 68
5 Stanford 0.81481 66 15 0 81
6 Boise State 0.81013 64 15 0 79
7 Michigan State 0.80247 65 16 0 81
8 Oklahoma 0.78481 62 17 0 79
9 Louisiana State 0.78205 61 17 0 78
10 Northern Illinois 0.77381 65 19 0 84
11 Clemson 0.76543 62 19 0 81
12 Texas Christian 0.75325 58 19 0 77
13 Oklahoma State 0.74359 58 20 0 78
14 Wisconsin 0.74074 60 21 0 81
15 Baylor 0.73077 57 21 0 78
16t Georgia Southern 0.72000 18 7 0 25
16t Appalachian State 0.72000 18 7 0 25
18 Notre Dame 0.70513 55 23 0 78
19 Georgia 0.70000 56 24 0 80
20 Louisville 0.69231 54 24 0 78
21 Toledo 0.68421 52 24 0 76
22t Texas A&M 0.66667 52 26 0 78
22t South Carolina 0.66667 52 26 0 78
22t Houston 0.66667 52 26 0 78
25 Nebraska 0.66250 53 27 0 80
26t Auburn 0.65823 52 27 0 79
26t Southern Cal 0.65823 52 27 0 79
26t San Diego State 0.65823 52 27 0 79
29t Missouri 0.65385 51 27 0 78
29t Kansas State 0.65385 51 27 0 78
31 Navy 0.64935 50 27 0 77
32t Brigham Young 0.64103 50 28 0 78
32t Mississippi State 0.64103 50 28 0 78
32t Marshall 0.64103 50 28 0 78
35 Virginia Tech 0.63750 51 29 0 80
36 Cincinnati 0.63636 49 28 0 77
37t Arkansas State 0.62338 48 29 0 77
37t Michigan 0.62338 48 29 0 77
39 Utah 0.61842 47 29 0 76
40 Ohio 0.61538 48 30 0 78
41 Florida 0.61039 47 30 0 77
42t North Carolina 0.60256 47 31 0 78
42t Central Florida 0.60256 47 31 0 78
44t UCLA 0.59494 47 32 0 79
44t Utah State 0.59494 47 32 0 79
46 Penn State 0.59211 45 31 0 76
47t Arizona State 0.58974 46 32 0 78
47t Iowa 0.58974 46 32 0 78
49 West Virginia 0.58442 45 32 0 77
50t Louisiana Tech 0.57895 44 32 0 76
50t Western Kentucky 0.57895 44 32 0 76
52 Nevada-Reno 0.57692 45 33 0 78
53 Washington 0.56962 45 34 0 79
54t Louisiana-Lafayette 0.56579 43 33 0 76
54t Arkansas 0.56579 43 33 0 76
54t Northwestern 0.56579 43 33 0 76
54t Miami-Florida 0.56579 43 33 0 76
58 Arizona 0.56410 44 34 0 78
59 East Carolina 0.55263 42 34 0 76
60 North Carolina State 0.54545 42 35 0 77
61 Bowling Green 0.54430 43 36 0 79
62 Texas 0.53947 41 35 0 76
63 Air Force 0.53846 42 36 0 78
64 Rutgers 0.53247 41 36 0 77
65 Georgia Tech 0.53165 42 37 0 79
66 Temple 0.52703 39 35 0 74
67t Mississippi 0.52632 40 36 0 76
67t Texas Tech 0.52632 40 36 0 76
69t Fresno State 0.52564 41 37 0 78
69t Pittsburgh 0.52564 41 37 0 78
71 Tulsa 0.51948 40 37 0 77
72 Duke 0.50649 39 38 0 77
73t Ball State 0.50000 37 37 0 74
73t Rice 0.50000 38 38 0 76
75t Tennessee


2005-2015...

1 Boise State 0.84138 122 23 0 145
2 Ohio State 0.83333 110 22 0 132
3 Oregon 0.79310 115 30 0 145
4 Alabama 0.78740 100 27 0 127
5 Texas Christian 0.78723 111 30 0 141
6 Louisiana State 0.77778 112 32 0 144
7 Oklahoma 0.76712 112 34 0 146
8 Wisconsin 0.73973 108 38 0 146
9 Florida 0.72222 104 40 0 144
10 Southern Cal 0.71970 95 37 0 132
11 Georgia 0.71724 104 41 0 145
12 Clemson 0.70548 103 43 0 146
13 Virginia Tech 0.70068 103 44 0 147
14t Brigham Young 0.69718 99 43 0 142
14t Texas 0.69718 99 43 0 142
16 Florida State 0.69630 94 41 0 135
17 Penn State 0.68571 96 44 0 140
18 West Virginia 0.68085 96 45 0 141
19 Utah 0.67143 94 46 0 140
20 Michigan State 0.67133 96 47 0 143
21t Missouri 0.66667 96 48 0 144
21t Oklahoma State 0.66667 94 47 0 141
21t Cincinnati 0.66667 94 47 0 141
24 Auburn 0.66197 94 48 0 142
25 Navy 0.65493 93 49 0 142
26 Houston 0.65278 94 50 0 144
27 Nebraska 0.64828 94 51 0 145
28 Louisville 0.64748 90 49 0 139
29 Notre Dame 0.64286 90 50 0 140
30 Northern Illinois 0.63946 94 53 0 147
31 Stanford 0.63121 89 52 0 141
32 South Carolina 0.61702 87 54 0 141
33 Texas Tech 0.61429 86 54 0 140
34 Iowa 0.60284 85 56 0 141
35 Michigan 0.59712 83 56 0 139
36 Rutgers 0.59574 84 57 0 141
37 Texas A&M 0.59286 83 57 0 140
38 Georgia Tech 0.58621 85 60 0 145
39 Nevada-Reno 0.58451 83 59 0 142
40 Toledo 0.58088 79 57 0 136
41 Tulsa 0.58042 83 60 0 143
42 Miami-Florida 0.57554 80 59 0 139
43 Kansas State 0.57246 79 59 0 138
44t UCLA 0.57042 81 61 0 142
44t Central Florida 0.57042 81 61 0 142
46t Ohio 0.56738 80 61 0 141
46t East Carolina 0.56738 80 61 0 141
48 Arizona State 0.56429 79 61 0 140
49 Baylor 0.56204 77 60 0 137
50 Arkansas 0.56115 78 61 0 139
51 Northwestern 0.55797 77 61 0 138
52 Arkansas State 0.54745 75 62 0 137
53 Pittsburgh 0.54676 76 63 0 139
54t Central Michigan 0.54610 77 64 0 141
54t Boston College 0.54610 77 64 0 141
56 Fresno State 0.54225 77 65 0 142
57 Air Force 0.53571 75 65 0 140
58 Arizona 0.53237 74 65 0 139
59t Mississippi State 0.52899 73 65 0 138
59t Tennessee


2000-2015.......

1 Boise State 0.84615 176 32 0 208
2 Ohio State 0.81026 158 37 0 195
3 Oklahoma 0.80751 172 41 0 213
4 Louisiana State 0.76923 160 48 0 208
5 Texas Christian 0.76119 153 48 0 201
6 Oregon 0.75728 156 50 0 206
7 Georgia 0.73684 154 55 0 209
8 Texas 0.73659 151 54 0 205
9 Southern Cal 0.72539 140 53 0 193
10 Virginia Tech 0.71090 150 61 0 211
11 Florida 0.71014 147 60 0 207
12 Florida State 0.70854 141 58 0 199
13 Wisconsin 0.69524 146 64 0 210
14 Alabama 0.69149 130 58 0 188
15 Clemson 0.68116 141 66 0 207
16 Auburn 0.67961 140 66 0 206
17 Louisville 0.67822 137 65 0 202
18 Utah 0.67172 133 65 0 198
19 Miami-Florida 0.67164 135 66 0 201
20 Nebraska 0.65865 137 71 0 208
21 Northern Illinois 0.64878 133 72 0 205
22 West Virginia 0.64851 131 71 0 202
23 Brigham Young 0.64532 131 72 0 203
24 Michigan 0.64179 129 72 0 201
25 Toledo 0.63131 125 73 0 198
26 Cincinnati 0.62562 127 76 0 203
27 Notre Dame 0.62500 125 75 0 200
28 Oklahoma State 0.62189 125 76 0 201
29 Iowa 0.62069 126 77 0 203
30 Michigan State 0.61576 125 78 0 203
31 Penn State 0.61307 122 77 0 199
32 Texas Tech 0.61275 125 79 0 204
33 Kansas State 0.60099 122 81 0 203
34 South Carolina 0.60000 120 80 0 200
35 Missouri 0.59901 121 81 0 202
36 Tennessee


1995-2015.......

1 Ohio State 0.80545 207 50 0 257
2 Boise State 0.77647 198 57 0 255
3 Florida State 0.75385 196 64 0 260
4 Florida 0.74074 200 70 0 270
5 Oregon 0.73585 195 70 0 265
6 Oklahoma 0.72778 196 73 1 270
7 Louisiana State 0.72744 193 72 1 266
8 Virginia Tech 0.72694 197 74 0 271
9 Georgia 0.71642 192 76 0 268
10 Texas 0.71455 191 76 1 268
11 Nebraska 0.71324 194 78 0 272
12 Texas Christian 0.69380 179 79 0 258
13 Wisconsin 0.69373 187 82 2 271
14 Southern Cal 0.69368 175 77 1 253
15 Alabama 0.68145 169 79 0 248
16 Michigan 0.67681 178 85 0 263
17 Miami-Florida 0.67308 175 85 0 260
18 Utah 0.66667 170 85 0 255
19t Tennessee

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Where Tennessee ranks the last 5 years, 10 years, 15 years, 20, 30, 40, and 50 years, according to statistics at Stassen. This, UT fans, is reality.

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I can remember being up in the cheap seats at Neyland and seeing Coach Bryant with that damned hat leaning up against the south goal post, maybe that was 1981 or ‘82.

And I always liked and respected him and the Bammer program (okay except saying ‘Bammer’ which I can’t resist).

And I still like and respect the Bammer program. I even chuckled at the Regions Bank commercial where Coach Sabin is trying to buy that expensive dress from the co-ed.

And Bammer clearly has the best history in the SEC and especially lately. I don’t have any problems with that; but bad fans who just come to poke for the sake of poking, I don’t much like. You say you are a Bammer fan. One might think you’d be happy with the last 10 years or so. But no, that isn’t adequate. You post a bunch of shite that the record won’t support.

Walt

UT '81

Hey can you split that up by decade? BEcause since you're using "since 19##" as your justification, you are creating a recetncy bias which hurts us due to our recent troubles. Split it up only be decade like:

90s:
00s:

etc...because what does 2000-2015 have to do with our success in the 90s, 80s, etc? Nothing at all.