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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:05 pm to
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SEC better get ready for the Alien anal probe.


Alien goes to UT and thinks everyone loves to buttchug.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:05 pm to
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Last UT win vs Big6: UGA, 10/10/2009

Last UT win vs Big6 not named UGA: Alabama, 10/21/2006


Hope you guys enjoyed it while it lasted.
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:07 pm to
Butch defeated a SCar team in 2013 that finished #4 in the country that year.


And I don't care how good you think Iowa was, if you watched that bowl game, you know what people are excited about. The talent level is night and day from when Butch got here.

Further, you are overhyping the hype that we are getting. I have seen some prognosticators have us ranked in the 20-25 range. You are acting like we are guaranteeing a national title this year or something.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:07 pm to
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Hope you guys enjoyed it while it lasted.

Not sure why you put that in the past tense, we still in the middle of it.




...and loving it.
Posted by slayerxing
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:09 pm to
There are questions at all levels of the defense.

The DT position is still weak enough that freshmen could be big contributors.

DT: Danny O'Brien (RJr), Kahlil McKenzie (Fr)
DT: Owen Williams (Sr) OR Trevarris Saulsberry (Sr), Shy Tuttle (Fr)

No one is scared of that potential rotation at DT. Unless the freshmen are awesome. So again - questions on the interior DL.

Who is going to play LB other than Reeves-Maybin? Curt Maggit? He's more of a DE than a LB at this point. Big questions there especially at MLB.

The secondary lost Coleman (lead team in INT), and there a lot of questions about the depth in that unit, and they probably have the two weakest safeties in the east outside of Kentucky in Randolph and Mcneil. (arguable)

So yeah, questions at every level.

This is a team that gave up a lot of rushing yards, and against teams with decent QBs, gave up a lot through the air too.

And I don't know why you brought up Florida. No one is hyping them. You're just deflecting.
Posted by UAtide11
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:10 pm to
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Hope you guys enjoyed it while it lasted


I hate to be the grammar nazi, but I believe it would be more accurate for you to say: "Hope you guys are enjoying it while it is lasting.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:13 pm to
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Not sure why you put that in the past tense, we still in the middle of it.




...and loving it.


That's what UT fans thought in the late 90's and early 2000's...7 year winning streak over Bama and 9 year streak over Georgia...times were good and we were just as myopic as you are now.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:14 pm to
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I hate to be the grammar nazi, but I believe it would be more accurate for you to say: "Hope you guys are enjoying it while it is lasting.


That would be accurate grammar, but an inaccurate statement.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:19 pm to
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we were just as myopic as you are now.

I'm not being myopic, I'm just stating facts.

Until UT beats a Big6, and especially one not named UGA, it will continue to be fact.

At least Arky beat a Big6 not named UGA just last season. They'll be UT's big test next season, let's see if the Vols can overtake the Hogs.
Posted by Legendary0903
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:21 pm to
Tennessee's defense will be better at every position next year, aside from LB.

DT: O'Brien is an above average DT, as is Saulsberry when he is healthy. Owen Williams is average; however, this is the same rotation from last year. The freshmen could contribute, but that is more because they are both freakish talents. Khalil already has NFL strength at 350 pounds, which is generally the biggest weakness of freshmen DTs.

DE: Tennessee may have the best DE tandem in the country. Barnett and Maggitt are crazy good, and the guys behind them provide above average depth.

LB: JRM will anchor the defense from his OLB role. UT runs a base 4-2-5 defense, so the only position up for grabs is at MLB. Dillon Bates, Bryant, Kirkland, etc. could take the starting spot. They are each inexperienced, but all of them are very talented.

CB: Cam Sutton and Emmanuel Moseley will be upper-SEC corners this year. Gaulden will be a good runstopping NB. There is also some depth here for the first time in a long time. That depth will be bolstered by Justin Martin's arrival in the summer.

S: Brian Randolph provides a blend of talent and leadership. Todd Kelly Jr. and Evan Berry are the future at S though. Also plenty of depth at S.


In summary, Tennessee will be better on defense in 2015 than they were in 2014.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:29 pm to
The same ham n eggers from last year will still be ham n eggers. There is a reason UT fans are so excited about the incoming freshmen, they KNOW they need the help at DT ASAP.

UT has a few stars, like the ends, Reeves-Maybin and sutton, but there isn't a lot else happening on that defense right now. Unless someone else steps up, their ceiling isn't much higher than last year.

That being said, there aren't many good QB's in the conference this year, so I am sure their stats will be better than last year.

It'll be interesting to see if they can stop the run this year. They gave up 180 yards or more 6 times last year and almost 170 yards per game and that was with a guy playing MLB who was going to be in the NFL if he didn't rape people.



Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:33 pm to
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There are questions at all levels of the defense.


Tennessee did lose Coleman and Jordan Williams...those are the only two players they lost from the end of last season (A.J. Johnson was gone well before the season was over).

They are adding players who should be better than the one they lost on the DL (and the fact that they are gaining depth at the position helps). You mentioned Meckenzie and Tuttle...but I think that the addition of Kyle Phillips could be as big an addition as any. He could add pressure opposite Barnett and allow Magitt to play predominantly at OLB.

As for the other LB positions...I would look for Dillon Bates to make a move. He was getting significant playing time before he tore his pect last season. I could also see Jakob Johnson getting into the LB rotation.

At DB, losing Coleman will hurt, but the addition of Justin Martin could be an even bigger gain. The fact that Todd Kelly Jr has had a full year in the system (as has Evan Berry)...the secondary could be a step improvement over last year.

UT should be better at every position than last year (with the exception of MLB during the first 2/3 of the season).
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:42 pm to
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You are acting like we are guaranteeing a national title this year or something.


every dumbass on this site is accusing us of this
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:43 pm to
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The same ham n eggers from last year will still be ham n eggers.


Except a large portion of the "ham n eggers" from last year were Freshmen who hadn't ever been through a college off season conditioning program.

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It'll be interesting to see if they can stop the run this year.


That is why it was important for them to have a strong DL class coming in.

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They gave up 180 yards or more 6 times last year and almost 170 yards per game and that was with a guy playing MLB who was going to be in the NFL if he didn't rape people.


Actually they only gave up 180 yards or more 4 times with Johnson playing LB, and opponents averaged 4.25 yards per carry on UT's young defense. They have another year under their belts, and should be better.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:44 pm to
I get your reasons for optimism. Florida fans have them too about players taking the next step, etc. Especially on offense.

But let's be honest, even with AJ Johnson, who played all the way until the last 3 games of the 13 game schedule, the run defense was below average.

Would you want Maggit away from the LOS? He had a good season there.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:45 pm to
Thanks for adding to the hype, dipshit!
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:47 pm to
You really just compared late 90s Phil Fulmer to Nick Saban? Look, I know Alabama's streak over Tennessee will end at some point. But Saban is so far beyond Fulmer it's laughable. The guy will lose his touch but it won't be because of laziness like Fulmer.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:52 pm to
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Would you want Maggit away from the LOS? He had a good season there.


Personally...I would prefer Maggit and Barnett on the ends and run a base 4-3...probably what you are actually going to see more of will be a nickel with those two at ends and Reeves-Maybin and Bates at LB...they think they have found the solution for the nickel position (Gaulden), so Sutton and Moseley can stay at corner.

I am optimistic...but also realize that the defense struggled heavily with the run and with mobile quarterbacks.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:55 pm to
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Look, I know Alabama's streak over Tennessee will end at some point. But Saban is so far beyond Fulmer it's laughable. The guy will lose his touch but it won't be because of laziness like Fulmer.


You are right...Saban will move on before he gets lazy...How long can his ego really handle how he was abused by the NFL?
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 12:58 pm to
I disagree. I think TN's will be very, very strong.

Missouri's could struggle.
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