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re: Tennessee honest question about your incredible collapse...
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:01 am to VolsMissthe90s
Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:01 am to VolsMissthe90s
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YEs it has been a long term issue but it was Fulmer's ability to recruit nationally that made UT great in the 90's and early 2000's. Recently though UT hasn't been able to lock down its own state and what little talent it produces but that seems to be changing.
Fulmer poached the shite out of Georgia, among others before he got fat and lazy. Kiffin's recruiting classes would have been excellent had he stayed. Say what you want about Coach O, but that guy is a fricking maniac on the recruiting trail. And even Kiffin's first class he snagged Bryce Brown and Janzen Jackson. And now Jones is doing an excellent job recruiting.
The moral of the story is Derek Dooley sucks.
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Posted on 9/25/13 at 3:38 am to TutHillTiger
Prep football talent is on the rise across the state of Tennessee over the last 10 years. There are three major D1 prospects in upper ET right now as juniors and that never happens.
That being said, as soon as Bob Kessling took over as Voice of the Vols, it all went to pot. He has no excitement. No energy. And the team and program started declining upon his hire.
That being said, as soon as Bob Kessling took over as Voice of the Vols, it all went to pot. He has no excitement. No energy. And the team and program started declining upon his hire.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 4:53 am to Prof
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Kiffin also ran of Tajh Boyd who had previously committed to UT
That right there should be enough for UT fans to move on from Kiffin.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 6:03 am to BigOrangeBri
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Ha, you really love this stat. You put it in every UT thread even though lsu has only won 1 more in that time span. From 1985 to 2010 UT won 230 games which is 6th in the country. Lsu is 15th with 204.
Lsu has 7 since 1970. Tenn 5.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 6:05 am to Monticello
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UT in the 90's was every bit as tough of an opponent as LSU has been over the last 10 years. The difference is that UT has been at that level during many decades whereas LSU has only recently been a consistent power.
No. Tenn won on title in 98. That's it. And two sec titles. Lsu has 4 sec titles since 01.
What decades was tenn great? They have 5 sec titles since 1970. I don't care what they did pre integration.
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 6:12 am
Posted on 9/25/13 at 7:05 am to TutHillTiger
This has always been an issue for UT. If you look back at the better Vol teams from the past, they were mostly made up of out-of-state players.....particularly in the skill positions.
One thing that bothers me about Bama's program, is a trend in that direction.
One thing that bothers me about Bama's program, is a trend in that direction.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 7:13 am to Bumpndnite
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One thing that bothers me about Bama's program, is a trend in that direction.
I know you're not comparing UA and UT.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 6:34 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Yeah Alabama pre-Saban was just killing it
For the exception of the dark decade Alabama was killing it.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 6:40 pm to Prof
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you have to understand that Bristol, TN is actually closer to CANADA than Memphis
:mindblown:
Posted on 9/25/13 at 6:52 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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Will that go to [OFF] when the Fluker wins are vacated?
Keep hanging your head on this little guy....
Posted on 9/25/13 at 6:54 pm to TutHillTiger
The one area of the state of TN that seems to have talent is Memphis. UT can't compete with the other schools recruiting the Memphis area.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 6:58 pm to biglego
Here are a few numbers to emphasize the perennial lack of high school talent in the state of Tennessee...
State population:
Tennessee: 6.3M...17th nationally (1.3M of whom live almost 400 miles from Knoxville)
Alabama: 4.7M...23rd nationally
S. Carolina: 4.6M...24th nationally
Louisiana: 4.5M...25th nationally
Number of players ranked annually by Rivals:
Louisiana: 40...1 for every 112,500
Alabama: 30...1 for every 157,000
S. Carolina: 25...1 for every 184,000
Tennessee: 20...1 for every 315,000
State population:
Tennessee: 6.3M...17th nationally (1.3M of whom live almost 400 miles from Knoxville)
Alabama: 4.7M...23rd nationally
S. Carolina: 4.6M...24th nationally
Louisiana: 4.5M...25th nationally
Number of players ranked annually by Rivals:
Louisiana: 40...1 for every 112,500
Alabama: 30...1 for every 157,000
S. Carolina: 25...1 for every 184,000
Tennessee: 20...1 for every 315,000
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 9/25/13 at 7:00 pm to SwayzeBalla
Memphis is becoming an absolutely elite city for basketball talent. Along with that though, they are becoming the second best city for football talent in the state.
Posted on 9/25/13 at 7:13 pm to volfan30
The state of Tennessee is full of small to mid-sized, white, high schools. This is not the formula for great in state recruiting. Tennessee needs to recruit heavily in Georgia to compete, but several schools are recruiting Georgia heavily (UGA, UA, AU, SC).
Posted on 9/25/13 at 7:14 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Lsu has 7 since 1970. Tenn 5
UT has 7 since 1967 just 3 years difference. And still has 26 more wins from 1985 to 2010.
Again, congrats on the lame overused stat
This post was edited on 9/25/13 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 9/25/13 at 7:15 pm to Robert Goulet
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recruiting budget
Posted on 9/25/13 at 7:20 pm to SwayzeBalla
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The one area of the state of TN that seems to have talent is Memphis. UT can't compete with the other schools recruiting the Memphis area.
The Nashville area is quickly becoming the Memphis of Tennessee recruiting. This is very good news for the Vols.
From 247.....
"Early Look- With a double digit number of prospects rated four-stars or higher this early in the 2015 cycle, it’s safe to say that this could be one of the best classes on paper in the history of recruiting in the Volunteer State. The Nashville area in particular is up.
Off the Board- Four-star defensive back Donovan Sheffield of Nashville Ensworth has committed to Vanderbilt. Tennessee has commitments from offensive linemen Zach Stewart of Coalfield and Jack Jones of Murfreesboro Oakland, along with Lenoir City athlete Jaylond Woods- all three stars.
Best Available- Rico McGraw, CB, Nashville Ensworth; Drew Richmond, OT, Memphis University School; Kyle Phillips, DE, Nashville Hillsboro; Jauan Jennings, DQB/ATH Murfreesboro Blackman; Van Jefferson, WR, Brentwood Ravenwood?
?The Buzz- McGraw, an early selection for the 2015 U.S. Army All-American Bowl, is one of the best defensive backs in the country for his cycle and it’s an excellent, deep cycle at both cornerback (where he projects) and safety. Alabama is the early pick as to where he will end up, but watch out for the Vols and others. Richmond has good size, footwork and has a slew of offers. Tennessee and Ohio State are two early suitors with staying power. Phillips’ mother is the AD at Tennessee State University in Nashville and is a Vanderbilt graduate, so the hometown Commodores look good early. Phillips is a dominant pass rusher that is already 6-foot-4, 250 pounds. Jennings is 6-foot-4, 200 pounds and has verbal offers from the likes of Ohio State and others. The only question- is he a quarterback in college? Like Phillips, Jefferson has good bloodlines. His father is Tennessee Titans receivers coach Shawn Jefferson, who played in two Super Bowls and had more than 7,000 career receiving yards in the NFL. Ohio State and others have offered Jefferson, a great route runner, early.
Potential Sleeper(s)- Defensive end Dylan Jackson of Maryville impressed at the Atlanta VTO Combine this past spring and has great size and athleticism at 6-foot-6, 240 pounds. He could end up being a tight end or even an offensive tackle in college, but he’s got excellent potential. Also- quarterback Nick Tiano of the Baylor School in Chattanooga is 6-foot-5, 220 pounds and has a good arm. Expect his stock to rise moving forward.
Trending- Up. During the modern era of recruiting coverage (starting at the turn of the century/millennium), there has never been, on paper, the deep number of legitimate, High-FBS level prospects spread across the state of Tennessee as there is for 2015. That’s good news for Butch Jones, who is trying to rebuild the Vols. That’s good news for James Franklin, who has made in-state recruiting a point of emphasis during his time at Vanderbilt and it’s good news for other programs who recruit the state. Perhaps the most rare thing about the 2015 cycle besides the talent depth is the fact that the players are not all concentrated in the west (Memphis). Nashville has most of the talent and there are quite a few in eastern Tennessee as well.??"
Posted on 9/25/13 at 7:24 pm to UMTigerRebel
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East and West Tennessee are worlds apart culturally.
How so?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 7:30 pm to Paul Allen
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How so?
Not sure if serious?
Posted on 9/25/13 at 7:32 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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No. Tenn won on title in 98. That's it. And two sec titles. Lsu has 4 sec titles since 01. What decades was tenn great? They have 5 sec titles since 1970. I don't care what they did pre integration.
Because LSU's title in 1970 is so much more relevant.
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