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Sure You Wanna Speed It Up? Faster Offenses Lead To Weaker Defenses In The SEC
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:03 pm
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:04 pm to Gardevoir
SHMEEGLE
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:04 pm to Gardevoir
go back in your pokeball
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:05 pm to Gardevoir
summary? tl;dr
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:05 pm to Gardevoir
McRibs
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:09 pm to Gardevoir
Didn't read, but how many HUNH offenses have won a National Title?
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:10 pm to Gardevoir
Bama and UGA could both have a top five offense (maybe not statistically) this year, and neither play pussy HUNH ball.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:13 pm to Gardevoir
It is a sign of desparation. Run and gun, no huddle, hurry up are all variations of short term success gimmicks.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:14 pm to Gardevoir
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Discuss.
nah
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:14 pm to bona fide
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Didn't read, but how many HUNH offenses have won a National Title?
Auburn and Oregon ran hurry ups when they met in the BCSNCG.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:15 pm to nc14
I don't care what offense you run, better players, better coaches usually win.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:16 pm to Gardevoir
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But these numbers are hard to argue with on the whole. The more up-tempo an SEC team goes on offense, the less effective it will likely be on defense. Conversely, the slower a team plays on offense, the better its chances of playing well on defense.
This is wrong and all the evidence I need is from watching Fran's last few years at A&M.
We played a slow paced, run based offense. The defensive numbers looked like they improved under Gary Darnell but in reality they could never get important stops or hold anyone on 3rd down.
If you have good talent and they are coached well the D will be good. The speed of your offense has little to do with it.
The problem with the formula MrSEC is using is they are assuming more yards and points given up = a worse defense. By pure numbers one could argue that but if you actually watch the games? Not so much.
If you want to see a better measure of a team's defensive capabilities you need to look at their 3rd down defense. Yards and points are ultimately meaningless when you can toss up 35+ points a game.
This post was edited on 6/23/13 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:17 pm to bona fide
Didn't read, but how many HUNH offenses have won a National Title?
When they did, they were SEC. Can't skirt the defense part of the equation.
SEC.
When they did, they were SEC. Can't skirt the defense part of the equation.
SEC.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:31 pm to BamaStud
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When they did, they were SEC. Can't skirt the defense part of the equation.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:31 pm to Gardevoir
So defenses that spend more time on the field play worse because of fatigue?
What a revolutionary thought
What a revolutionary thought
This post was edited on 6/23/13 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:34 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Bama and UGA could both have a top five offense (maybe not statistically) this year, and neither play pussy HUNH ball.
***** HUNH ball? Because they don't huddle they are less manly? You can hurry up no huddle and run 10 straight draw plays, the point is limiting defensive substitutions and exploiting the weakness on the field.
Offensive players typically move a bit better/more endurance so defenses get gassed. It's actually a really good strategy, air raid, pro style or whatever.
It has 0 effect on quality of defense. It hurts your def stats bc more possessions = more yards and maybe more points...
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:37 pm to Gardevoir
Boobs?
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:37 pm to Nguyening
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Nguyening
You should stick to basketball.
The issue is whether HUNH offenses affect the quality of their own teams defense.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:40 pm to Gardevoir
Any statisticians on board? It looks to me the author is just dividing number of snaps by possession time. It's a mathematical exercise. I've watched Chip Kellys' version a few times. Sometimes he'll run an actual hurry up. Sometimes it's simply a no-huddle, calling the play at the line, to disallow defensive substitutions.
This article looks like a rehash of 'statistics mean whatever you want them to mean'. Balding men have a higher incidence of heart attack. Has nothing to do with hair, balding men tend to be older, therefore higher incidence of heart attack.
This article looks like a rehash of 'statistics mean whatever you want them to mean'. Balding men have a higher incidence of heart attack. Has nothing to do with hair, balding men tend to be older, therefore higher incidence of heart attack.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:45 pm to Cockopotamus
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The issue is whether HUNH offenses affect the quality of their own teams defense.
If it's actual hurry-up at practice it would probably be beneficial. The guys will definitely be in shape.
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