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re: Still incredible how Nick Saban broke texas.

Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:42 pm to
UT still lost.
Posted by The Truthbuster
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 8:49 pm to
Yes they did.
Sometimes losing is not a bad thing nor is adversity.

Texas football is very much like Russia as a country
They will raise again and when they do they will be much stronger than they were before. Too many resources player wise and financially. No other program has the ability to dominate college football like UT could.
Bama on the other hand. I have the upmost respect for their program and Nick Saban. I know they had their rough periods and have emerged much stronger than they were under Bear Bryant.

Quite possibly next matchup will result differently on the scoreboard but more importantly with the trajectory of the programs afterwards
Posted by samson73103
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:10 pm to
The difference between Saban's treatment of Texas and LSU is simple. Saban bent Texas over and went in dry....and stuck it in all the way. Because he once coached at LSU, he is a bit sentimental towards them so he applied lube before making them grab their ankles.
Posted by saintsman40
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by Drizzt
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:27 pm to
I'm still surprised that Little Nicky never took the Texas job. It's the one place that could out Alabama even Alabama. Wealthier boosters, more in state talent, easier conference, and they really want to be dominant again. How the Teasips have screwed the pooch this long is baffling.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 9:29 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:30 pm to
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I'm still surprised that Little Nicky never took the Texas job. It's the one place that could out Alabama even Alabama.


They have a lot of money, sure, but where in their history have they ever proven that they can out-Alabama Alabama? Since their most recent national title in 2005 you have to go all the way back to 1970 to find their next one. They win games but they are among the most overrated programs in all of college football.

Posted by Drizzt
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:33 pm to
You could have made this same argument about Bama prior to Saban. The Dark Ages were not that long ago.
Posted by samson73103
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:34 pm to
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They win games but they are among the most overrated programs in all of college football.

This X 1000. They are the Dallas Cowboys without the trophies.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:34 pm to
At least they still had an SEC title and some other 10 win seasons.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:38 pm to
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You could have made this same argument about Bama prior to Saban.


No, you really couldn't have. There was a 10-year period between 1997-2007 where we were mediocre - and virtually all of that was due to NCAA probation and poor decision making by the administration after Stallings retired. We had won a national title in 1992 and almost played for another in 1994.

Plus...during that span of suckage, we won a conference championship and had multiple 10-win seasons. Also...had we not gotten hit with the Albert Means scandal, I am convinced that Franchione would have won us a national title. He was taking the program in the right direction.

Posted by The Truthbuster
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:18 pm to
Actually Texas can be called the most underachieving program in college football history

Far from overrated. Texas is a program that holds itself back a lot of the times because of the people around the program. When Texas is winning the entire state supports the program. There is no Florida State as with Florida and the people in California care more about professional football than the NFL one of things I do not like living out here. Finding college football fans out here compared to Texas is difficult.

This is why A&M moved to the SEC they had this idea that they could start winning and Texans would start supporting their university. It kinda happen in 2012 especially with the Bama win, Heisman trophy and Cotton Bowl victory. A&M couldn't follow it up with anything.

Alabama population wise and money wise has nothing on Texas. Once the 11 and 12 win seasons begin again in Austin you will see. They just need Herman to get the ball rolling.

I believe you can call every coach who has coached here overrated even DKR. If we ever had a real coach here who had the discipline and forethought of a Bobby Bowden, Nick Saban or Woody Hayes Texas could win 6 to 8 national championships in a 15 year period easily
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Herman Frisco
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:54 pm to
You talk the talk but until texas beats Bama in the playoffs or the NC game all you got is hot air.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:03 pm to
A&M moved to the SEC because the decision makers finally realized that the asshats in Austin are like progressive leftists. They will never allow us to coexist as equals if they have any control over it.

Also, comparing ourselves to them instead of setting our sights greater was holding us back.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:10 pm to
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Alabama population wise and money wise has nothing on Texas.


Alabama has always been the inferior in both of these categories and yet always seems to outperform Texas when it matters most.

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Once the 11 and 12 win seasons begin again in Austin you will see.


What will I see that hasn't already been seen?

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I believe you can call every coach who has coached here overrated even DKR.


Perhaps it has more to do with Texas's own inflated sense of self-worth than it does the coaches? If you want to say that even Darrell Royal is overrated, then it's very likely that Texas is no where near as good of a program as many people claim.
Posted by The Truthbuster
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:10 pm to
You know what is funny about that is that the administration in Austin attempted to schedule a home and home series with Bama a few years ago as UT was looking to play all the blue bloods from each conference
ND, USC, Ohio State but
Bama did not want to play in Austin and wanted a neutral site game in either Arlington or Atlanta.
UT told them no and scheduled LSU.
Posted by The Truthbuster
Member since Jun 2017
157 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:13 pm to
Not really considering that Bama does not have a decent record against UT
If it wasn't for the national championship game UT would still be undefeated against you

You want is even funnier is that if UT was a Bama like problem we would be claiming 15 national championships. UT has the most unclaimed national championships in college football
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 11:14 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:15 pm to
Alabama doesn't claim nearly as many as people like to suggest.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:16 pm to
Whose alter are you?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:17 pm to
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Not really considering that Bama does not have a decent record against UT



That's not what we are arguing. We are arguing championships. Yes, Texas has a winning record over Alabama but that's just about the only thing they have over them.

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UT has the most unclaimed national championships in college football



How many national titles can you legitimately claim post-1936?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:19 pm to
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UT has the most unclaimed national championships in college football

No.
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