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re: Still incredible how Nick Saban broke texas.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:32 am to Dr RC
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:32 am to Dr RC
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Are you drunk? Why the frick are you prattling on about those asshats from Austin on tRant?
wtf? sounded like a mouthful of bama dick to me. quite typical of the rant IMHO.
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:34 am to CapstoneGrad06
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But the Mack Brown era started its downfall that night in the Rose Bowl.
it was the moment he had the epiphany that it was all hopeless as long as bama was allowed to operate outside the rules. marcel dareus could have stabbed colt mccoy in the face with a soldering iron and not even have drawn a flag.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:46 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Mack Brown had a complete change in philosophy after that game. I assure you that game led to their downfall.
Bad recruiting and a later era Bobby Bowden-esque malaise and auto-pilot created the Longhorn slump. It's not unusual for coaches to lose their edge at some point.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:53 am to JohnnyU
If you want to bring up recruiting, you can blame asshats like Bobby Burton, who would ensure recruits magically gained 2-3 stars when they committed to Texas and lowered targets who committed to A&M, Texas Tech, etc. in the same manner.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:04 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Nick has broken several teams and/or coaches, some long term, some shorter term, nonetheless his teams' beat downs of other teams (or frequent wins relatively short period of time) have been unusually responsible for coaching changes than normally seen.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:28 am to AUTiger45
Don't you wish Auburin could "get away" with 25% of what your daddy "gets away" with.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:40 am to Herman Frisco
Bama would have won even had McCoy played the whole game.
I'm not a Texas fan, but pretty sure leading with your helmet is a penalty. Its also a pretty dirty play to spear someone from the blind side. Its not quite as bad as the dick stomper from MSU, but close.
I'm not a Texas fan, but pretty sure leading with your helmet is a penalty. Its also a pretty dirty play to spear someone from the blind side. Its not quite as bad as the dick stomper from MSU, but close.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 12:14 pm to JohnnyU
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Bad recruiting and a later era Bobby Bowden-esque malaise and auto-pilot created the Longhorn slump. It's not unusual for coaches to lose their edge at some point.
You're right of course but Alabama fans have this pathology where they think everything has to be about them somehow. It's bizzare.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 12:35 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I lived in Austin for awhile and I assure you, nobody broke Texas but Texas.
Been here 10 years and this the indisputably the correct answer.
Cra Cra runs rampant in the power ranks.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 12:39 pm to The realpurpangold
You are an idiot. McCoy was already injured by Suh and tried to play the game. This is where the problem with that game lies. McCoy should have either continued to play or should have not played at all and allowed Gilbert to run the offense during the practices leading up to the game.
McCoy could have still played after the hit but his Dad did not allow it because they were worried about the NFL Draft
McCoy could have still played after the hit but his Dad did not allow it because they were worried about the NFL Draft
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 6/24/17 at 12:52 pm to TTsTowel
Texas was already in trouble well before the Bama loss. McCoy and Shipley helped hide things on the field while Muschamp and Applewhite provided what little effort and accountability the staff had in them. The core issue was the staff sellout after 2005 led by Mack Daddy, his old cronies followed his lead and were flat out lazy.
Happens most everywhere when programs get long in the tooth at the top.. Penn St, FSU, Tennessee etc.. Another reason why Saban is so exceptional, he stays hungry, hard working, innovative and doesn't allow for complacency.
Knew the asst S&C at Texas during the last years of the Mack Brown era. He thought he was walking into the premier oppty in the country only to find out it was a cesspool of laziness and delusional self value.
Cycles.. shyt happens. Flush and start over.
Happens most everywhere when programs get long in the tooth at the top.. Penn St, FSU, Tennessee etc.. Another reason why Saban is so exceptional, he stays hungry, hard working, innovative and doesn't allow for complacency.
Knew the asst S&C at Texas during the last years of the Mack Brown era. He thought he was walking into the premier oppty in the country only to find out it was a cesspool of laziness and delusional self value.
Cycles.. shyt happens. Flush and start over.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:55 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
You mean since Colt quit.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:58 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
frick those burnt orange fricks.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:19 pm to Korin
I wouldn't say he quit. I say that Colt McCoy pretty much told UT that his future in the NFL and getting paid was more important than Texas winning the national championship
You saw that this year with Fournette and LSU how he picked money over the university. This is apart of football that the NFL has changed. Do you think in the 1960's Colt, his Dad and his agent would have made the decision or would it have been DKR.
College coaches sometimes do not have all the power anymore
You saw that this year with Fournette and LSU how he picked money over the university. This is apart of football that the NFL has changed. Do you think in the 1960's Colt, his Dad and his agent would have made the decision or would it have been DKR.
College coaches sometimes do not have all the power anymore
Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:23 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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i know Alabama fans think everything is about them, but it really isn't.
You should quit posting in every Bama thread, then. You are apparently part of the problem and a massive ego stroker.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 4:30 pm to Katy Tiger
Did you watch the game.
First off with McCoy that drive would have resulted in a TD. Texas 7 Bama 0 instead of UT3 Bama 0
Now if you remember on the kickoff Bama lost possession of the ball somewhere around their own 35. With McCoy it would have been a TD maybe but even without the TD we are speaking about Texas 14 or 10 Bama 0. instead of Texas 6 Bama 0
Being down two possessions this would have forced Bama to open up their offense more and we saw in that game that Bama couldn't. They had no passing game at all.
Instead Bama was down by only one possession and still could play conservative.
Gilbert found holes in that Bama team in the second half do you really think McCoy wouldn't.
Even with Gilbert Texas was down by only a few points with a few minutes left. A fumble is what kept UT from winning and Bama from losing.
Bama and their fans in that game did not have as much confidence as Texas. Texas had won every previous game before Bama and has just won a National Championship 4 years earlier.
If Bama would have been down 14-0 I think that game would have been a blowout
I am talking about Texas 51 Alabama 10
I saw it coming up until that hit. Bama fans can tell a different story
First off with McCoy that drive would have resulted in a TD. Texas 7 Bama 0 instead of UT3 Bama 0
Now if you remember on the kickoff Bama lost possession of the ball somewhere around their own 35. With McCoy it would have been a TD maybe but even without the TD we are speaking about Texas 14 or 10 Bama 0. instead of Texas 6 Bama 0
Being down two possessions this would have forced Bama to open up their offense more and we saw in that game that Bama couldn't. They had no passing game at all.
Instead Bama was down by only one possession and still could play conservative.
Gilbert found holes in that Bama team in the second half do you really think McCoy wouldn't.
Even with Gilbert Texas was down by only a few points with a few minutes left. A fumble is what kept UT from winning and Bama from losing.
Bama and their fans in that game did not have as much confidence as Texas. Texas had won every previous game before Bama and has just won a National Championship 4 years earlier.
If Bama would have been down 14-0 I think that game would have been a blowout
I am talking about Texas 51 Alabama 10
I saw it coming up until that hit. Bama fans can tell a different story
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 6/24/17 at 6:38 pm to The Truthbuster
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First off with McCoy that drive would have resulted in a TD. Texas 7 Bama 0 instead of UT3 Bama 0
Alabama inexplicably ran a fake punt in their own territory which was intercepted and run back to the Alabama 37.
The actual play by play of the ensuing drive went like this:
-5 yard completion
-4 yard completion
-1 yard run (1st down - ball at Alabama 27)
-16 yard run (1st down, ball at Alabama 11)
-"Colt Got Hurt"
-10 yard run (1st down at 1)
-Offsetting penalties
-0 yard run
-1 yard run
-1st attempted pass by Gilbert
-FG
On the ensuing kickoff, t.u. ran an ONSIDE KICK and got the ball at the Alabama 30. At this point, Alabama figured out how to stop Tre Newton, who rushed for 16 yards on the first drive, and held him to 5 yards on 2 carries.
Now here's a fact you don't like to acknowledge.
Rushing Stats, 1st quarter:
Alabama
-Mark Ingram: 2 carries, 18 yards
-Trent Richardson: 1 carry, 9 yards
-Greg McElroy: 1 carry, 0 yards
Texas
-Cody Johnson: 4 carries, 2 yards
-Tre Newton: 5 carries, 19 yards
-D.J. Monroe: 1 carry, 10 yards
Then in the 2nd Quarter, Saban figured out that the Longhorns couldn't stop the run:
Alabama
-Mark Ingram: 11 carries, 62 yards, 1 TD
-Trent Richardson: 6 carries, 57 yards, 1 TD
-Roy Upchurch: 2 carries, 9 yards
-Greg McElroy: 1 carry, 6 yards
Nor could they run the ball
Texas
-D.J. Monroe: 1 carry, 28 yards
-Fozzy Whitaker: 1 carry, 5 yards
-Tre Newton: 3 carries, 12 yards
-John Chiles: 1 carry, 8 yards
-Garrett Gilbert: 2 carries, 2 yards
McElroy was sacked 4 times for -23 yards.
The first half rushing totals?
Alabama - 24 carries/161 yards, 2 TD. (138 with sacks) That's 6.7 yards per carry, 5.75 if you include sacks.
Texas - 18 carries/86 yards. That's 4.78 yards per carry. However, that total is inflated by the 3 carries for 46 yards on end-arounds. Actual running back totals for the first half? 15 carries for 40 yards, or 2.7 yards per carry.
Ingram and Richardson both rushed for over 100 yards and 2 touchdowns apiece in that game. The Longhorns leading rusher had 39 yards on 14 carries
How in the hell do you think that they would have held Alabama to 10 points when allowing nearly 7 yards per carry on the ground?
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 6/24/17 at 6:40 pm to The Truthbuster
TALK ABOUT LIVING IN FANTASY LAND.......... 
national champs..........thats right.........16 times.......
national champs..........thats right.........16 times....... Posted on 6/24/17 at 7:17 pm to Dr RC
That's because CGSC Lobotomy is LSU fans' favorite secret double agent. LOL
Posted on 6/24/17 at 7:33 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Shows how much you do not understand about football
Everything in football is dictated by the score. I played the game long enough at a key position and I have been around the game long enough to understand the offensive play calling is conservative while ahead and open while behind. To how far one way usually is determined by the score.
So Bama being down ONE possession was key.
If Bama was down 10-0 or 14-0 Saban might have opened up the offense more but what was key was a lot of those runs and yards came because Texas could not move the ball and Bama was in the lead
My point being was that if Texas takes a lead then Ingram and Richardson become less important.
I have said before and will say again the issue with that game was that Mack Brown was out coached and did not have his team entering the game in the right mindset. Texas should have been trying to develop a ground game all year. Texas with McCoy was one dimensional. Mack saw this and this was the reason why he tried to change the team
I wouldn't say Texas high school players are soft. I grew up in Texas and played in the 90's. I attended a 4A high school around the time when Art Briles was doing his thing in Stephenville. Craig Yenzer was at Hereford before going to Midland and he took a small Texas town with a spread offense to the state finals against Texas City.
These guys opened up the offenses at the high school levels at the same time Leach went to Tech and Greg Davis was the OC in Austin they began to want those players. With the high schools winning with the spread and colleges playing the same offense. Texas high school football evolved.
It is not about toughness. I can take you to West Texas. Some of these schools will knock any Alabama high school or Louisiana high school on their arse it is more about high schools in Texas need to find a balance between smash mouth football and wide open offenses.
Texas smash football is still in the DNA of Texas high schools
Everything in football is dictated by the score. I played the game long enough at a key position and I have been around the game long enough to understand the offensive play calling is conservative while ahead and open while behind. To how far one way usually is determined by the score.
So Bama being down ONE possession was key.
If Bama was down 10-0 or 14-0 Saban might have opened up the offense more but what was key was a lot of those runs and yards came because Texas could not move the ball and Bama was in the lead
My point being was that if Texas takes a lead then Ingram and Richardson become less important.
I have said before and will say again the issue with that game was that Mack Brown was out coached and did not have his team entering the game in the right mindset. Texas should have been trying to develop a ground game all year. Texas with McCoy was one dimensional. Mack saw this and this was the reason why he tried to change the team
I wouldn't say Texas high school players are soft. I grew up in Texas and played in the 90's. I attended a 4A high school around the time when Art Briles was doing his thing in Stephenville. Craig Yenzer was at Hereford before going to Midland and he took a small Texas town with a spread offense to the state finals against Texas City.
These guys opened up the offenses at the high school levels at the same time Leach went to Tech and Greg Davis was the OC in Austin they began to want those players. With the high schools winning with the spread and colleges playing the same offense. Texas high school football evolved.
It is not about toughness. I can take you to West Texas. Some of these schools will knock any Alabama high school or Louisiana high school on their arse it is more about high schools in Texas need to find a balance between smash mouth football and wide open offenses.
Texas smash football is still in the DNA of Texas high schools
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 7:34 pm
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