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Spinoff: A holder can throw with his knee on the ground

Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:08 am
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40088 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:08 am
quote:

When any part of the ball carrier’s body, except his hand or foot, touches
the ground or when the ball carrier is tackled or otherwise falls and loses
possession of the ball as he contacts the ground with any part of his
body, except his hand or foot [Exception: The ball remains alive when an
offensive player has simulated a kick or at the snap is in position to kick the
ball held for a place kick by a teammate. The ball may be kicked, passed or
advanced by rule] (A.R. 4-1-3-I).

LINK

So apparently the holder is not down as long as they lined up in FG formation.

Straight from the NCAA rulebook. gators melt
Posted by SohCahToa
New Orleans, La
Member since Jan 2011
7750 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:09 am to
Welp, its settled. Gators lose their moral game as well.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21729 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:12 am to
He can't throw a forward pass with his knee on the ground.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:14 am to
quote:

He can't throw a forward pass with his knee on the ground.



Good thing it wasnt a forward pass. And none of the three LSU has done in recent memory have been

eta: You may just be stating in general, but it is irrelevant for the play in question
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 8:15 am
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18495 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:15 am to
quote:

He can't throw a forward pass with his knee on the ground.
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2176 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:15 am to
The rule doesnt seem to stipulate forward, lateral or reverse pass.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:15 am to
quote:

gators melt


this word needs to be retired yesterday.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21729 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:16 am to
quote:

eta: You may just be stating in general, but it is irrelevant for the play in question


It was a general statement and it was pertinent to the OP...as he was busting out the rule book
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
12166 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:16 am to
quote:

He can't throw a forward pass with his knee on the ground.


Have you actually seen the play???
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40088 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:16 am to
quote:

He can't throw a forward pass with his knee on the ground.


The exception says he can throw a pass and the NCAA definition of a pass is this

quote:

Team A may make one forward pass during each scrimmage down
before team possession changes, provided the pass is thrown from a point in or
behind the neutral zone.
LINK

So again it was legal. LSU good, SEC scurred!

ETA: It was classified as a lateral. Krag had no passing stats and our 2nd leading rusher was our kicker. So your argument is just bad.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 8:19 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139779 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:16 am to
quote:

gators melt


When you say this, you clearly mean all Gators, right?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:18 am to
I thought the rule in question had to do with the fact that the kicker took off running.

If that's the case, the rule in the OP is irrelevant.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139779 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Welp, its settled. Gators lose their moral game as well.


When you say this, you mean all Gators, right?
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17256 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:19 am to
Everyone knows that the ref blew it.
The rule is you can only lateral the ball while on your knee, not throw it foward.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94859 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:21 am to
quote:

I thought the rule in question had to do with the fact that the kicker took off running. If that's the case, the rule in the OP is irrelevant.
No it isnt. The kicker taking off running has absolutely nothing to do with anything. TJ was just a retard last night
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40088 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:21 am to
quote:

I thought the rule in question had to do with the fact that the kicker took off running.

If that's the case, the rule in the OP is irrelevant.


Nope. As long as the ball was snapped with LSU in FG formation it is good.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94859 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:22 am to
quote:

The rule is you can only lateral the ball while on your knee, not throw it foward
Once again, no it isnt. Where do you retards come from

quote:

The ball remains alive when an
offensive player has simulated a kick or at the snap is in position to kick the
ball held for a place kick by a teammate. The ball may be kicked, PASSED or
advanced by rule] (A.R. 4-1-3-I).
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21729 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:22 am to
Dear god...the amount of insecure LSU pussies in this thread is overwhelming.....

The play was NOT a forward pass...I never said it was.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 8:24 am
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72869 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:23 am to
It was in Tiger Stadium so the refs let us do what we want. Just like they let Bama generally do what they want in Bryant-Denny. I don't see the problem. It is the way of the SEC.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40088 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Everyone knows that the ref blew it.
The rule is you can only lateral the ball while on your knee, not throw it foward.


Damn the Gumps, Gators, and Dawgs are some uneducated butthurts today.

quote:

Exception: The ball remains alive when an
offensive player has simulated a kick or at the snap is in position to kick the
ball held for a place kick by a teammate. The ball may be kicked, passed or
advanced by rule]
(A.R. 4-1-3-I)


Says nothing about lateral and it wouldn't matter if it did because it classified as a lateral (see the gamestats linked above).
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