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Speaking of rivalries....gonna see a change in the next few years re:longevity
Posted on 10/9/15 at 11:48 am
Posted on 10/9/15 at 11:48 am
I was perusing a list of the most frequently played rivalries in 1A history.
Currently the DSOR is tied for 4th with 118. After closer look, one that we're tied with is Texas/aTm also at 118, which will of course end this year so they will fall to a tie for 5th. Also of note is that Missouri/Kansas is tied for 2nd with 120, and they are not scheduled to play the next couple years as well so they will also tumble down the hierarchy.
I knew UT/ATM and KU/MO were big rivalries of course, but I didn't realize each one had been played THAT much. That was pretty surprising. I can't even begin to imagine a football season without playing Auburn in late november. I'm actually surprised how our atm/miz posters seem to be relatively ok with their situations. I mean yeah you hate your rival and all and yadda yadda, but it just doesn't seem "right" that you would let a top 5 all time rivalry just go dormant.
Currently the DSOR is tied for 4th with 118. After closer look, one that we're tied with is Texas/aTm also at 118, which will of course end this year so they will fall to a tie for 5th. Also of note is that Missouri/Kansas is tied for 2nd with 120, and they are not scheduled to play the next couple years as well so they will also tumble down the hierarchy.
I knew UT/ATM and KU/MO were big rivalries of course, but I didn't realize each one had been played THAT much. That was pretty surprising. I can't even begin to imagine a football season without playing Auburn in late november. I'm actually surprised how our atm/miz posters seem to be relatively ok with their situations. I mean yeah you hate your rival and all and yadda yadda, but it just doesn't seem "right" that you would let a top 5 all time rivalry just go dormant.
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 11:51 am to WG_Dawg
Time to put the Iron Bowl out to pasture. It has gotten tired and stale.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 11:51 am to WG_Dawg
Good luck this weekend!
Posted on 10/9/15 at 11:52 am to WG_Dawg
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I was perusing a list of the most frequently played rivalries in 1A history. Currently the DSOR is tied for 4th with 118. After closer look, one that we're tied with is Texas/aTm also at 118, which will of course end this year so they will fall to a tie for 5th. Also of note is that Missouri/Kansas is tied for 2nd with 120, and they are not scheduled to play the next couple years as well so they will also tumble down the hierarchy. I knew UT/ATM and KU/MO were big rivalries of course, but I didn't realize each one had been played THAT much. That was pretty surprising. I can't even begin to imagine a football season without playing Auburn in late november. I'm actually surprised how our atm/miz posters seem to be relatively ok with their situations. I mean yeah you hate your rival and all and yadda yadda, but it just doesn't seem "right" that you would let a top 5 all time rivalry just go dormant.
The Mizzou/Kansas rivalry will resume sometime soon. Even Kansas recently admitted that not playing Mizzou is a mistake that has negatively affected them.
When Mizzou announced we were moving to the SEC, Mizzou reached out to Kansas to keep the rivalry going. Kansas threw a bitch fit because we were leaving them to die in a dying conference and refused to continue the rivalry.
Four years later they are having second thoughts.
It'll resume again.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 11:53 am to WG_Dawg
I don't think MU and A&M had any say in the matter. Kansas and Texas acted like bitches and wouldn't continue the series.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 11:54 am to WG_Dawg
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I knew UT/ATM and KU/MO were big rivalries of course, but I didn't realize each one had been played THAT much. That was pretty surprising. I can't even begin to imagine a football season without playing Auburn in late november. I'm actually surprised how our atm/miz posters seem to be relatively ok with their situations. I mean yeah you hate your rival and all and yadda yadda, but it just doesn't seem "right" that you would let a top 5 all time rivalry just go dormant.
Die hards like myself are extremely upset over it. Particularly KC-side folks.
Our rivalry goes beyond sports, it is part of true American history. Civil war and all.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 11:54 am to Kentucker
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I don't think MU and A&M had any say in the matter. Kansas and Texas acted like bitches and wouldn't continue the series.
gotcha, didn't realize that.
It's just hard to put myself (or my team I should say) in that position. Even if we moved somewhere or did something else I woudl think tech and auburn would still agree to play us.
Well, maybe not tech since we so utterly and thoroughly own them, but auburn I would think.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 11:55 am to mizzoukills
I am curious. How many years ahead do you think it would take to schedule resuming the game?
I know scheduling OOC games often seems like a bear of a task.
I know scheduling OOC games often seems like a bear of a task.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 11:55 am to Kentucker
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I don't think MU and A&M had any say in the matter. Kansas and Texas acted like bitches and wouldn't continue the series.
I think A&M told Texas to go frick themselves
Posted on 10/9/15 at 11:58 am to winston318
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I think A&M told Texas to go frick themselves
And they did! They hired Charlie Strong.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 11:58 am to higgs_boson
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I know scheduling OOC games often seems like a bear of a task
they really aren't THAT bad...I know we inked an opening game with UNC for '16 just last year.
I looked at MU schedule through '17 with no kansas..but it seems like if both parties wanted to do it they could start it up in 18.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 12:00 pm to higgs_boson
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It's just hard to put myself (or my team I should say) in that position. Even if we moved somewhere or did something else I woudl think tech and auburn would still agree to play us.
Same for us...until they didn't.
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How many years ahead do you think it would take to schedule resuming the game?
Within 5-10 years I'd say. In our game with Middle Tenn st or whatever, there is a buyout clause with the condition if we schedule a Big 12 team....which most sense would be a kansas game.
Both Mizzou and kansas have different athletic directors since realignment went down, and realize the series is very important to both fan bases.
Obviously scheduling is tough in general...but I'd imagine within 5-10 years the Border War will be back.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 12:00 pm to WG_Dawg
I think our rivalry will resume in football.
I don't think it will ever be revisited in basketball.
Basketball is where it really became nasty.
Maybe when Self leaves, but not before that.
I don't think it will ever be revisited in basketball.
Basketball is where it really became nasty.
Maybe when Self leaves, but not before that.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 12:00 pm to higgs_boson
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I am curious. How many years ahead do you think it would take to schedule resuming the game?
I don't know. However, we could schedule them pretty soon in basketball. They'll kill us 8 out of 10 times in basketball, but resuming the basketball rivalry will prompt the football rivalry to resume at a later point.
When we resume the Mizzou/Kansas basketball rivalry, that first game will be a HUGE event. It'll be a ratings bonanza.
ESPN will love it.
That'll lead to talks of resuming the football rivalry which (of late) Mizzou has absolutely owned. The Jayhawkers aren't as interested in the football rivalry as they are the basketball rivalry because they don't own us in football.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 12:01 pm to winston318
No, we said anytime, anyplace. They told us they were busy washing their hair.
We moved on... as best you can when the ex keeps texting you.
The Kansas-Missouri game spawned one of my favorite rival week shirts:
We moved on... as best you can when the ex keeps texting you.
The Kansas-Missouri game spawned one of my favorite rival week shirts:
Posted on 10/9/15 at 12:04 pm to Remote Controlled
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Maybe when Self leaves, but not before that.
Actually, Self recently said that he would like the rivalry to resume. Even he has finally admitted that the rivalry never should have ended.
Bill Self on 3 years of not playing Mizzou in basketball
LAWRENCE —
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One day before No. 9 Kansas was set to face in-state rival Kansas State in men’s basketball, KU coach Bill Self stood inside Allen Fieldhouse on Friday and spoke about losing another rival.
It’s been nearly three years since Missouri left the Big 12 for the Southeastern Conference, and while the presence of K-State has given the Jayhawks a couple of marquee games to circle on the calendar, Self concedes that the loss of a historic rival has been a net-negative for his program.
“To be real candid, it’s not good,” Self said. “It hasn’t been great.”
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“You can make a case for certain things about it that we haven’t taken a step backward — that kind of stuff,” Self said. “But I think everybody likes waking up in the morning disliking somebody. And so from that standpoint, it probably hasn’t been great.
“But it’s kind of the way it is. It’s the landscape of college athletics. It’s not just us. It’s happened everywhere and all other leagues.
“We’re fortunate and glad, as I’m sure K-State is, to have each other. It’s good. At Oklahoma State and OU, we had Bedlam, which is good. … But it’s hard to replace 180 games or whatever. It’s hard to replace that type of stuff.”
Posted on 10/9/15 at 12:07 pm to WG_Dawg
Bill Self was a pretty big part of "break up." He was the most vocal about not wanting to continue the series. And since football is only slightly less important than court-appointed defense attorneys there, the hoops coach has the say.
While not on the national scale of Bama/Auburn, Mich./OSU or Duke/NC in hoops, the pure hatred the series extracted in almost every sport was very real (and at times scary).
When Norm Stewart was the basketball head coach, he was very proud of the fact that he didn't spend a dime in kansas. When travelling to Lawrence, the bus would be filled up in KC, before entering the "state."
He let them pee and poop there, though.
While not on the national scale of Bama/Auburn, Mich./OSU or Duke/NC in hoops, the pure hatred the series extracted in almost every sport was very real (and at times scary).
When Norm Stewart was the basketball head coach, he was very proud of the fact that he didn't spend a dime in kansas. When travelling to Lawrence, the bus would be filled up in KC, before entering the "state."
He let them pee and poop there, though.
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 10/9/15 at 12:08 pm to 5thTiger
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In our game with Middle Tenn st or whatever, there is a buyout clause with the condition if we schedule a Big 12 team
Blue Raiders were gonna whoop that arse anyways.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 12:10 pm to mizzoukills
Yeah, but I don't think playing us right now does anything for them.
It's kind of a lose-lose right now. Self is to smart for that.
They'll be getting a new football coach shortly, and I think the AD will go ahead and start talks for the rivalry to resume in KC.
We need non-con games going forward, so it will be done.
It's kind of a lose-lose right now. Self is to smart for that.
They'll be getting a new football coach shortly, and I think the AD will go ahead and start talks for the rivalry to resume in KC.
We need non-con games going forward, so it will be done.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 12:12 pm to higgs_boson
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I am curious. How many years ahead do you think it would take to schedule resuming the game? I know scheduling OOC games often seems like a bear of a task.
Two years. Our 2017 away game with MTSU has an out if we schedule a big 12 opponent.
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