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Posted on 8/30/15 at 10:26 am to allin2010
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Design looks strange. Why come to a point?
Jumbotron behind would be hard to see if it did not come to a point.
Back on point, Even if the Pizza Pit sells out, Commonwealth has sold well over capacity in the past so breaking the seating record of 71,000 or 72,000 set by UK will be hard to break. The downside to the new Commonwealth, aside from catering to the wealthy at the expense of the masses, is the loss of real overcapacity game sales so the loss of 6,000 seats was really more like 10,000 lost seats.
As UK has been greatly influenced by Oregon (and Nike) I wonder if they are using that model to limit non UK seating and make it harder for non UK fans to get seats that would have been available with more seats (hence more supply) similar to what happens in Rupp for basketball. It is almost impossible to get Rupp seats for UK games for outside fans. If they reduce seating and build a new Rupp of say 18,000 seats (as proposed when Ricky was coaching) it would be a tighter ticket and hard to see any non blue in the venue for a game.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 10:32 am to Dr RC
Louisville's stadium is still named the Papa Johns Cardnial Stadium which is lamer than anything Kentucky has done.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 10:35 am to throwingoranges
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I like what Kentucky did. They made their facilities better rather than bigger.
This is where the debate begins. The loss of the grass "lot" (Orange lot if memory serves) and it now being replaced with asphalt "specific" spaces at double or triple the old cost will make the old tailgate area much less fan friendly. Already know many with EKY roots who did not renew in that section due to costs and "corporatization" of what was a really fun experience.
The bigger issue is things like where the 120 million went? It really needed a new paint job, and that would have been a small price to pay to make it look fresher yet as of a week ago this had not happened so it looks like it will not happen. Instead the old paint looks dated and a bit rusty at the edges.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 10:44 am to Landmass
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What a success story. Just a decade and a half ago, Louisville was on par with Memphis. They were is CUSA, barely plucking wins out of the air and had no fan support. They invested heavily into football and are now in a power 5 conference and winning a lot more and had to expand their stadium. Meanwhile, in Memphis...
This. It's pretty amazing what Louisville has done in the last 15 years. Their football and conference affiliation has changed dramatically. It's almost unbelievable.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 10:47 am to Serraneaux
This is the old stadium they were playing in:
Posted on 8/30/15 at 10:48 am to CatFan81
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They rarely sell out games.
Here is the core of the whole realignment argument
Moving to a bigger and better conference will bring bigger games and creates bigger game environments. Louisville in the Big Least meant playing teams where selling 30K a game was considered good. Now they are in the ACC those games get replaced by schools where selling 50K or 60K seats gets easier and you have overflow for big games like Florida State (and probably Notre Dame going forward) as they are just down the road.
UK every other year will probably be a sell out at the new capacity and a school like Ohio State may consider Home and Home if you seat 65K instead of 45K so their fans can travel for a game so close to Columbus. Playing the Line Beards in the OOC looks better in a bigger stadium than just playing an old MAC school like Toledo.
Louisville in the ACC will grow their base just because of their new money and bigger base.
Cincinnati in the Big 12 would probably do the same with more sports money and games with Texas, Oklahoma, and West Virginia than they will ever do remaining in a non Power 5 conference where they are now.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 10:49 am to Serraneaux
Also, this is why I just laugh at Memphis for just sitting there and doing nothing to try and improve their situation.
All their dumbo AD does is sit there and demand to be in the Big 12 or SEC and wait for someone else to build them a stadium.
All their dumbo AD does is sit there and demand to be in the Big 12 or SEC and wait for someone else to build them a stadium.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 11:10 am to Dr RC
That's ugly as hell. Reeks of the "new money" type thing to do
Posted on 8/30/15 at 11:18 am to throwingoranges
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I like what Kentucky did. They made their facilities better rather than bigger
Agreed.
Only Little Brother schools get in a dick measuring contest about capacity vs. actually improving the quality of the facility. Increased seats when you're not selling out every game? Cool. I'll take the recruiting room with "balcony" that opens into the student section, a pretty swank new indoor facility, luxury boxes, and an improved limestone facade among other features. What their fans don't realize when talking shite is that if Kentucky reaches a point where capacity is an issue, they're still able to build on to increase capacity.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 11:38 am to BluegrassBelle
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I'll take the recruiting room with "balcony" that opens into the student section, a pretty swank new indoor facility, luxury boxes, and an improved limestone facade among other features.
Exactly, improvements is much more important than expanding when you don't need the expansion. We are upgrading too, it's important for recruitment and adds more excitement to the fan base.
Btw, hello Belle.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 12:10 pm to Dr RC
UL stadium looks like crap...lot of bad seats for viewing imo. Lots of pizza sold to build it.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 12:38 pm to Dr RC
UK is not the first P5 school to downsize the stadium and improve fan experience in response to the giant HD TVs that are getting ridiculously inexpensive. Stanford did it years ago and Arizona State has begun a reduction of Sun Devil Stadium from 71,000 to just 60,000.
I'd much rather see a full, smaller stadium than a bigger one with pockets of empty seats. There just aren't enough line beards to fill the pizza pit now, much less a bigger stadium.
I'd much rather see a full, smaller stadium than a bigger one with pockets of empty seats. There just aren't enough line beards to fill the pizza pit now, much less a bigger stadium.
This post was edited on 8/30/15 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 8/30/15 at 1:27 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Agreed.
Did you never party in the Orange Lot?
I will miss that greatly
As for other "upgrades" the ribbon boards were not to upgrade the fan experience but to enhance the coin from advertising in the most annoying way possible.
I am really disliking the band music being traded for canned music. Much like modern america, more lights and sound to cover marketing issues over fan enjoyment.
As for "club" seating and private decks. It is just a way to sell booze to the wealthy and keep the masses from buying a drink unless they cough up the hefty cover charge.
Personally, big or small. Seating expansion or seating contraction would mean little if they just posted 1 true price and that was the actual price stamped on the ticket. If you pay donations, let the face price reflect it. If they riddle you with add on fees - have it stamped on the ticket somewhere. Most sports tickets reflect only a fraction of what the tickets actually cost.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 1:42 pm to Dr RC
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Money to pay for the project will be raised through sponsorships, private donations, ticket sales and other possible sources. Jurich said it's too soon to know if U of L will seek any financing through government bonding.
Sounds a little too Yummy ~ all over again. the basketball arena was a complete funding nightmare for all Commonwealth taxpayers. Yum Center....$800m in debt back in 2013/2014
didn't ol TJ have to go out and hire the same attorney for General Counsel that the goats in Chapel Hell were using (to cover up and deflect NCAA scrutiny) regarding Lville's tax problems on the debt nightmare that is the Yum Center?
Props to UK for not being sketchy & underhanded in your facility management and planning
This post was edited on 8/30/15 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 8/30/15 at 4:27 pm to 1801
YUM was set up to revert back to UL at pennies on the dollar which was actually pretty smart on their part. The guy that made the money on the deal was a UK alum tho, as did some of his buds.
More of the rich from UK and UL making bank of the taxpayers of KY wallets and purses.
More of the rich from UK and UL making bank of the taxpayers of KY wallets and purses.
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