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Sleeping on Moo-State?
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:57 pm
I’ve seen many posts the last few months about Moo-state. Some say:
“they will be unable to match up with all of our talent;”
they will be… “last in the west;”
they…” lost too much to graduation;”
their fans … “are delusional to think they will beat [fill in blank;]”
the team is… “too young without any talent;”
their QB is.. “overrated and has no one to throw to;” etc.
Point I: “Talent” is strictly a comparative term. If you have a team of 22-four stars it is hugely talented… but how will it do against a team of 22-five stars?
Point II: “Recruitment stars” are given to rate recruits, not upperclassmen. A 5-star is an 18-19 year old freshman who can immediately help the team. He is not necessarily better than a 3-star 3-L redshirted 23-year old senior.
After taking a quick look at the quality of Moo State two deep, here is what we find:
I. They are possibly the “oldest” and “most experienced” team in the west. Their entire 2-deep roster has juniors or seniors at almost every position, all with multiple letters.
II. At every position they were rated as freshmen recruits as 0.82 or higher. With their entire roster having three–four-or five years in the system or in JC, the recruiting ranking no longer applies.
III. They will have the best returning QB in the league, and an “old man” bull dozer offensive line, and a veteran homogeneous defense.
Conclusion? Don’t sleep on Moo state.
“they will be unable to match up with all of our talent;”
they will be… “last in the west;”
they…” lost too much to graduation;”
their fans … “are delusional to think they will beat [fill in blank;]”
the team is… “too young without any talent;”
their QB is.. “overrated and has no one to throw to;” etc.
Point I: “Talent” is strictly a comparative term. If you have a team of 22-four stars it is hugely talented… but how will it do against a team of 22-five stars?
Point II: “Recruitment stars” are given to rate recruits, not upperclassmen. A 5-star is an 18-19 year old freshman who can immediately help the team. He is not necessarily better than a 3-star 3-L redshirted 23-year old senior.
After taking a quick look at the quality of Moo State two deep, here is what we find:
I. They are possibly the “oldest” and “most experienced” team in the west. Their entire 2-deep roster has juniors or seniors at almost every position, all with multiple letters.
II. At every position they were rated as freshmen recruits as 0.82 or higher. With their entire roster having three–four-or five years in the system or in JC, the recruiting ranking no longer applies.
III. They will have the best returning QB in the league, and an “old man” bull dozer offensive line, and a veteran homogeneous defense.
Conclusion? Don’t sleep on Moo state.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:58 pm to Jacknola
Little brother sticking up for big brother, refreshing.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:01 pm to Jacknola
You lost a permanent ban bet, engie.
Be a man and leave tRant forever.
Be a man and leave tRant forever.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:03 pm to Tornado Alley
First four replies to a rather good overall post where someone does some research are all Ole Miss fans trying to discredit the OP.
You can smell tFear.
Edit: Four*
You can smell tFear.
Edit: Four*
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:04 pm to DynastyDawg
You knew who would reply to Engie. Don't be naive...
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:05 pm to DynastyDawg
You misinterpreted my post. Also, I'm a Florida fan, everyone knows that.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:05 pm to DynastyDawg
I have some sort of primordial conflict with engie.
Don't bitch at me.
Don't bitch at me.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:06 pm to Jacknola
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I. They are possibly the “oldest” and “most experienced” team in the west. Their entire 2-deep roster has juniors or seniors at almost every position, all with multiple letters
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II. At every position they were rated as freshmen recruits as 0.82 or higher. With their entire roster having three–four-or five years in the system or in JC, the recruiting ranking no longer applies.
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a quick look
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Alabama Fan
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:07 pm to DynastyDawg
A) tFear has been copyrighted by our 2015 Offseason champions: the VOLS.
B) Maybe we could have replied objectively had we not heard the constant "1A, 1B" and "Moffan plays seniors blah blah" bullshite all summer.
B) Maybe we could have replied objectively had we not heard the constant "1A, 1B" and "Moffan plays seniors blah blah" bullshite all summer.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:08 pm to Jacknola
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Don’t sleep on Moo state.
Who's sleeping?
We're ruminating.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:15 pm to joeyb147
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quick look
Yep... I've done this scouting to about half the teams in the SEC, comparing 2-deep with recruitment year and original recruit ranking - then comparing the opposing teams, offense juxtaposed to defense.
This is just a part of preparing for the season, and is typical of Alabama thoroughness and attention to detail. This is one reason the Tide rolls... even the fans are focused on game preparation. If you all are lucky, I'll share the team-wide analysis I've done of the Aggy.
Oh.. I'm curious... just who is "engie?" I-yam-who-I-yam. I got banned two years ago for posting on the wrong board that the LSU QB was a fence post. Won't make that mistake again.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:16 pm to Tornado Alley
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Maybe we could have replied objectively had we not heard the constant "1A, 1B" and "Moffan plays seniors blah blah" bullshite all summer.
We bitch about it but wouldn't the 1A and 1B theory support the OP's findings?
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:23 pm to DynastyDawg
Y'all don't bitch about it. We bitch about it.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:24 pm to Jacknola
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Yep... I've done this scouting to about half the teams in the SEC, comparing 2-deep with recruitment year and original recruit ranking - then comparing the opposing teams, offense juxtaposed to defense.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:37 pm to Jacknola
One, if you are going to troll for a team then by God have the balls to troll for your team.
Vols&Shaft is sitting on a time out right now but you are still here babbling away. We know life isn't fair but it doesn't have to be this unfair.
Two, most folks I have seen posting about how Moo State should expect to take a step back have taken the time to note "They lost this, they lost that".
Look, you lost some talent and the West did not magically get worse over the off season. Yeah, people are wiping their behinds with Moo State right now. Prove us wrong. Because right now an Ole Miss team that was in a free fall at the end of last season beat you.
Win your state and we won't use you as a pillow. You had a magical season going last year and then it spun out of control and a lot of key personnel moved on. We are, quite naturally, a bit leery of anointing you the second coming right now.
Vols&Shaft is sitting on a time out right now but you are still here babbling away. We know life isn't fair but it doesn't have to be this unfair.
Two, most folks I have seen posting about how Moo State should expect to take a step back have taken the time to note "They lost this, they lost that".
Look, you lost some talent and the West did not magically get worse over the off season. Yeah, people are wiping their behinds with Moo State right now. Prove us wrong. Because right now an Ole Miss team that was in a free fall at the end of last season beat you.
Win your state and we won't use you as a pillow. You had a magical season going last year and then it spun out of control and a lot of key personnel moved on. We are, quite naturally, a bit leery of anointing you the second coming right now.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:39 pm to Tornado Alley
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Y'all don't bitch about it. We bitch about it
We bitched about it plenty
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