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re: Size and Growth of SEC Metros

Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:14 pm to
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Texas once again dominates the growth charts.
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Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:15 pm to
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The Golden Triangle is booming. If they had a Level 4 Trauma hospital I would move to Oktibbeha County. I really wish we could get a large aerospace employer though. We have smaller ones but I'm talking Boing or Air Bus level.




GTR has Airbus helicopters, formerly Eurocopter. It also has Aurora Flight Sciences, and Stark Aviation, along with Nucor steel.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 4:16 pm
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:17 pm to
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It is and isn't surprising. Oil took a big hit, but even with that we're still one of the stronger job markets and oil is starting to come back. Plus Mexico so our southern neighbors always want to better their lives.


Dallas, Houston, and Austin combined have added right at 2 Million people to their metros since 2000. That's more people added to those metros than the entire metro of Nashville. Unreal.

Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:18 pm to
I feel like Athens has to be getting close to being swallowed by the ATL metro. I mean from leaving the outskirts of Athens to the beginning of the Lawrenceville area only takes like 25 minutes.
Posted by mizslu314
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:19 pm to
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, the Columbia, MO area is really nice . the area around it is nice. In the Fall , it actually feels like football weather.


Boom. thank you, sir.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:19 pm to
Yeah Texas growth is amazing.

I've always viewed the growth in OKC and NWA as surprising in part due to having to compete with the huge magnets in North Texas.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:19 pm to
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Size and Growth of SEC Metros
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The Golden Triangle has a population of around 75k. Starkville is in it, so that info is incorrect. But not surprising.


"The Golden Triangle" is a local term, and doesn't represent an actual metropolitan statistical area. It's like saying "the tri-county area".

Starkville, like Oxford, uses the county it is in, because that's how most "Micropolitan" areas are reported.




Golden Triangle (Mississippi) - Wikipedia
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Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:21 pm to
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I've always viewed the growth in OKC and NWA as surprising in part due to having to compete with the huge magnets in North Texas.




I think the OKC growth actually goes hand in hand with the Metroplex. Not sure about NWA as its a bit different not 90% reliant on energy like OKC.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:22 pm to
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Golden Triangle (Mississippi) - Wikipedia


I'm familiar.

Each of the three large towns is reported as its own "Micropolitan" area right now, because they haven't reached the point of "growing together" into the same metro.

In a lot of ways, that is how Northwest Arkansas was set up 35 years ago. Now it's a contiguous metro area.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 4:23 pm
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:23 pm to
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I think the OKC growth actually goes hand in hand with the Metroplex. Not sure about NWA as its a bit different not 90% reliant on energy like OKC.


I'm just talking in terms of "attracting workers". With so many people being drawn into Texas from everywhere, it's surprising that adjacent states manage to have their own growing metros.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:28 pm to
For those who'd like to peruse the Metro and Micro-politan population estimates:

Census.gov 2016 population estimates
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14091 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:29 pm to
Pop 128k. The GTR airport, 2 universities, and GTR Aerospace Industrial Park, link the 3 towns, hence the name, Golden Triangle. It's perfectly relevant as a combined statistical area.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:33 pm to
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Each of the three large towns is reported as its own "Micropolitan" area right now, because they haven't reached the point of "growing together" into the same metro.


This is true. The projected population boom in the next decade though will put all these cities on each other's doorstep. And Mississippi State will be the anchor. They actually did a 60 Minutes feature on the Golden Triangle and the guy that is bringing in all this industry. These aren't low tech textile type jobs either. It will be an exciting thing to witness.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9590 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:34 pm to
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Only Starkville saw more people flee 

Insert Skip Bertman jokes.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:35 pm to
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I feel like Athens has to be getting close to being swallowed by the ATL metro. I mean from leaving the outskirts of Athens to the beginning of the Lawrenceville area only takes like 25 minutes.


Yeah. I think when the census is conducted every 10 years, they look at commuter statistics to define these metros. Something like if 25% of a county commutes into the larger metro, then it becomes part of it.

I've never been able to find those statistics listed anywhere. But it would be fascinating to see.

Atlanta could swallow up both Athens and Gainesville at any time... either of which would add 200,000 more to Atlanta's metro.

It likely won't happen in 2020, but if Tuscaloosa and/or Anniston ever gets added to Birmingham's metro, it would be a major boost. Birmingham sits a 1.15 Million right now. Tuscaloosa (240,000) and Anniston (115,000) are both just a 45 minute drive from downtown Birmingham. Those additions could be a massive boost to the Birmingham metro population. While I don't expect either to be added after 2020, there does seem to be a legit shot of the Talladega-Sylacauga micropolitan area (90,000) being added to the Birmingham metro.

Most of the growth in Birmingham is south, down Highway 280 through Shelby County. Just after you leave Shelby county come the cities of Childersburg and Sylacauga... plus the Talladega-Sylacauge micro area includes Lincoln in Talladega County which is where the Honda plant is located. Lots of commuters from inside the current Birmingham metro footprint work there.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14091 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:37 pm to
There's no reason that any of the 3 towns aren't currently combined as statistical area. If it is, it's incorrect. You can't link Columbus and West Point, and exclude Starkville, or any other combination of two.
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:37 pm to
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Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:37 pm to
Fayetteville to Bentonville (town centers) is further apart than Starkville to Columbus.

There are two cities of 80,000 and 60,000 located between them (Rogers and Springdale), and two other Fortune 500 HQs in those towns.

Like I said, it has a lot in common with NWA in the late 70s/early 80s.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14091 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:43 pm to
GTR was defined as a Micropolitan area 3 or 4 years ago. I read about it, and found it online. Why it would be defined as something different now wouldn't make any sense.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25156 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:43 pm to
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Fayetteville to Bentonville (town centers) is further apart than Starkville to Columbus.

There are two cities of 80,000 and 60,000 located between them (Rogers and Springdale), and two other Fortune 500 HQs in those towns.

Like I said, it has a lot in common with NWA in the late 70s/early 80s.


An excellent point. Now a days you can't just say Fayetteville and sum up the NWA. The "Ozarkopolis" that stretches from just south of Fayetteville right up to the Missouri border is growing like a weed.

The space in between is filling in. I agree that Mississippi in that area is starting to experience the same growth.
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