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Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:06 pm
I haven't watched many of your games. Up to this point in your season, how many times did Henry face a stacked box? I mean an 8 or 9 man stacked box? Would you say that it happened almost constantly through the season?
I am not asking this question to try to compare Henry to Fournette. I also know that Alabama didn't have to stack the line to stop Fournette. This is no troll.
I am trying to figure out why the game plan for the majority of LSU opponents was to stack the box. Would you say that LSUs lack of talent caused them to be 1 dimensional? Or that the offensive philosophy and scheme sucked?
Is LSU coached that badly on offense and defense? Or, are they just not very good? Was Brandon Harris the problem? Is LSUs defense coached so badly that they can't stop decent SEC offenses? Or is it lack of talent on that side of the ball also?
I would say it's a combination of all of the above. I think LSU is a middle of the pack SEC team with average players, and average to bad coaches. I would like your honest opinions on this.
I am not asking this question to try to compare Henry to Fournette. I also know that Alabama didn't have to stack the line to stop Fournette. This is no troll.
I am trying to figure out why the game plan for the majority of LSU opponents was to stack the box. Would you say that LSUs lack of talent caused them to be 1 dimensional? Or that the offensive philosophy and scheme sucked?
Is LSU coached that badly on offense and defense? Or, are they just not very good? Was Brandon Harris the problem? Is LSUs defense coached so badly that they can't stop decent SEC offenses? Or is it lack of talent on that side of the ball also?
I would say it's a combination of all of the above. I think LSU is a middle of the pack SEC team with average players, and average to bad coaches. I would like your honest opinions on this.
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:07 pm to BGSB
He's faced a 15 man box every game. Sometimes more. In one game he faced 30.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:08 pm to BGSB
Off the top of my head, Mississippi State is the only team that I noticed was stacking the box a lot.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:08 pm to BGSB
Do you think defenses Bama faced worried a lot about Cokers downfield passing?
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:08 pm to ACL11190
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He's faced a 15 man box every game. Sometimes more. In one game he faced 30.
Comedy, it's not what you are good at.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:09 pm to BGSB
MSU did all they could to keep him at the LOS.
It worked a few times but the problem is, if he gets anywhere past the line, he will run by you. It's pretty simple. I don't mean that in a sarcastic way.
It worked a few times but the problem is, if he gets anywhere past the line, he will run by you. It's pretty simple. I don't mean that in a sarcastic way.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:09 pm to BGSB
Bama didn't have to stack the box. We played base 3-4 nearly the entire game.
Henry has played against stacked boxes here and there, because the current novel is "Coker sucks, make him beat you through the air."
Henry has played against stacked boxes here and there, because the current novel is "Coker sucks, make him beat you through the air."
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:09 pm to BGSB
Coker > Harris
Kiffen > Cameron
Alabama and Coker could beat you passing if you didn't respect it. LSU and Harris never proved that he could chew up a defense that sold out to stop the run.
Kiffen > Cameron
Alabama and Coker could beat you passing if you didn't respect it. LSU and Harris never proved that he could chew up a defense that sold out to stop the run.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:11 pm to BGSB
He faces 8 women boxes every Saturday
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:12 pm to HottyToddy7
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Alabama and Coker could beat you passing if you didn't respect it. LSU and Harris never proved that he could chew up a defense that sold out to stop the run.
Yep
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:13 pm to BGSB
I saw a play once where an army of 10,000 stood before him, and alas he broke through with a single stiff arm.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:16 pm to bamabenny
But seriously, if you try to take one aspect away, Coker is good enough to make a team pay. Coker isn't necessarily gonna take the lid off of a defense with home run strikes, but he has been a great possession QB when he wants to be.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:17 pm to PepaSpray
quote:plus he can run for chunk yardage
but he has been a great possession QB when he wants to be
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:21 pm to PepaSpray
We line up in three wide most of the time, which makes it hard to load the box unless you're going to trust your DBs with man coverage with a lot of field available. We are a power team, but a lot of it is out of spread formation. This is a concept that LSU never grasped or embraced.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:21 pm to BGSB
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Up to this point in your season, how many times did Henry face a stacked box? I mean an 8 or 9 man stacked box?
cant tell you an exact number of times but it happened a lot.
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Would you say that it happened almost constantly through the season?
No, definitely not. That's mainly because of the play calling. Bama fans hollered for months that Kiffin wouldnt run the ball enough. When Kiffin was faced with the stack box, he'd usually throw it.
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Would you say that LSUs lack of talent caused them to be 1 dimensional?
No. I think there is lots of talent on the offense, particularly the skill players. But the offensive line wasn't talented enough to dominate the game with this scheme (horsedick left, horsedick right)
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Or that the offensive philosophy and scheme sucked?
i think the philosophy and scheme was 1 dimensional. It's like a basketball player who cant go to his weak hand. The defense just loads up to stop the run, and when forced to pass, the LSU QB couldnt consistently get the job done (and that's been the story for years and the reason for the current frustration).
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Is LSUs defense coached so badly that they can't stop decent SEC offenses? Or is it lack of talent on that side of the ball also?
i think the LSU defense is not close to the level of play of previous years. but they were changing schemes this season and a slight drop off should've been anticipated.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:24 pm to BGSB
LSU's tendencies are what's hurting them. If Les would self-scout his team, he would probably pick up on the tendencies. The team, coaches AND players, all needs to be more aggressive and break at least some tendencies. If you know what's coming, it's easier to prepare for it.
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:29 pm to narddogg81
Coker is getting better every game. He has only started 10 games in his career. He is good enough to make a defense pay if they cheat. MSU sold out to stop Henry. Coker did through an int, but it was an arm punt. He has made more big plays than bad ones recently. Plus, he can run and lay a hit on 2nd level players. I saw him truck an LSU LB and that really can't be underestimated as to what that does for your team's moral. Jake is a team first player and his teammates love him.
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