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Serious question about the livelihood of CFB...

Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:33 am
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:33 am
Is Alabama ruining the sport.

As a Bama fan I love our successes. But not at the expense of the whole sport. If Saban keeps coaching five more years or so we could all see the end of college football. lol I'm high
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7806 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:35 am to
if you win the title this year it will be deserved.

it's not going to be easy with your q.b.
Posted by bama will rise again
N Alabama
Member since Apr 2014
1669 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:38 am to
It's not if they play like he has last two games. But Frick it I want to win every year
Posted by DingDongEddieStrong
Member since Aug 2013
3779 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:39 am to
Did the 90s Bulls run ruin the NBA? Nope.

Alabama's issue is that after Julio Jones, there hasn't been much star power on the team. AJ McCarron is the last well known QB, and even then I'm not sure he was that widely known. Saban brings in talent that makes them be a team player, not an individual. That's great for the program, but it's hard to market that to a national audience outside of Alabama and our region.
Posted by silverstreak02
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2013
970 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:44 am to
Co-worker and I were talking about this the other day

With the exception of Julio Jones, C.J. Mosley and Amari Cooper, Bama hasn't put a ton of top-tier NFL players. They have over 50 players in the league now, which is insane, but isn't it crazy how they stockpile this talent and kill it in college, but it doesn't seem to translate for a lot of them.

Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28897 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:47 am to
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Did the 90s Bulls run ruin the NBA? Nope.

Much different than Alabamas situation. Alabama players are there 3-4 years not decades like the Bulls players were. Im asking myself HOW can one college team be this dominant where they control recruiting, the game, a every major stats column.... All while rotating players every couple years?
Posted by DingDongEddieStrong
Member since Aug 2013
3779 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:53 am to
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Im asking myself HOW can one college team be this dominant where they control recruiting, the game, a every major stats column.


No other coaching staff in the SEC has been able to change up the system and make an impact in each of these areas. Ole Miss got the closest with recruiting and an innovative scheme on offense, but they weren't able to sustain beyond 2-3 years. Auburn has had a year of success and then average success in other seasons. LSU can recruit at the level of Bama, but their coaching hasn't been close to their level. TAMU lacks the defense to beat Alabama, and coaching is subpar.
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:54 am to
The playoff is doing more damage to CFB than anything Bama could do.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:59 am to
Ruining the SEC not the sport.

No good coaches want to match their wits against Saban, and Saban provides an unrealistic benchmark for current coaches at schools with high expectations. In fact, I think the SEC West is caving in on itself because of those expectations.

Somebody has to lose, it won't be Saban, so the losses must be spread around amongst programs with those high expectations.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10523 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:59 am to
It's not helping CFB but it's temporary. When Saban leaves, balance will be restored.

The real question is how will Bama fans define "success" when they aren't winning the title every season.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24717 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:00 am to
Posted by asphinctersayswhat
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
3360 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:03 am to
quote:

he real question is how will Bama fans define "success" when they aren't winning the title every season.


Yeah, it's gonna suck for a bit. That is why I just live in the moment and know that this is something special to witness. When it is over, I will look back with fond memories.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59442 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:05 am to
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7:33 am


quote:

lol I'm high

upvote on that alone.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 8:07 am
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7806 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:15 am to
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But Frick it I want to win every year


you guys have a good shot at another title but, this year will be a little tougher.

if I was a betting man, id take bama. however, I see the field will be tough enough to where you will have to bring the A game.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67656 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:20 am to
As the old saying goes: "pigs get fat, but hogs get slaughtered"

Too much domination will bring more negative attention. Many more eyes looking for things to be critical of and perhaps NCAA violations.

So sure, go on and win, but just not too much.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:47 am to
quote:

Co-worker and I were talking about this the other day

With the exception of Julio Jones, C.J. Mosley and Amari Cooper, Bama hasn't put a ton of top-tier NFL players. They have over 50 players in the league now, which is insane, but isn't it crazy how they stockpile this talent and kill it in college, but it doesn't seem to translate for a lot of them.



You and your co-worker need to go back and take another look.

Landon Collins...leading tackler for the Giants, also leads in INTs with 5.
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix...leads the Packers in INTs
Mark Barron...2nd for the Rams in tackles and 10th in the league.
Eddie Lacy...on his way to his third 1,000 yard season when he got hurt.
Kareem Jackson...2nd for the Texans in tackles, also with an INT.
Kenyan Drake with a KR return and another long TD run to win two games for the Dolphins.
Mark Ingram is the Saints leading rusher, averaging over 5 yards a carry, and will go over 1,000 yards.
Ryan Kelly has started from day 1 at C with the Colts.
Derrick Henry is backing up the #3 rusher in the league and is doing very well...there's no reason to believe he won't be a star.

I could go on...but you get the idea.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38738 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:49 am to
CTE > Saban

One will kill football though
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76173 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:55 am to
Bamas dominance has dented my interest in CFB. I still love the sport but it's not as compelling as it was before Saban.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:59 am to
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That's great for the program, but it's hard to market that to a national audience outside of Alabama and our region.



You're right, Bama is really struggling in merchandise sales. Look it up, the program is hemorrhaging money because the brand is so weak.

OP is right too, college football is barely bringing in any money or TV ratings anymore. Who cares if by any objective metric it's never been a more lucrative industry? College football is dying, I tell you!

This forum never ceases to amaze and inspire.
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
16949 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:07 am to
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Too much domination will bring more negative attention. Many more eyes looking for things to be critical of and perhaps NCAA violations



They had an assistant coach bring a briefcase across state lines to a recruit's home where he met with a kid's handler... During the dead period ... The coach then lied to their compliance dept about all of it ... He was fired and then paid almost 3x his salary as severance and no one in Indianapolis batted an eye... Seriously .. That happened this calendar year.

Alabama and LSU are untoucable as long as Emmert is running the show.


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