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Seems to be some confusion about comparing Mac's first year to Boom's

Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:18 am
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:18 am
This ought to clear it up.

Some have said you have to look all the way back to Muschamp to find a UF coach that has performed as well as Mac so far in their first year. This unfortunate and very inaccurate comparison is being used to show UF fans that they should slow their roll when speaking of Coach Mac. Let's just look at the facts.

Muschamp year 1: 7-6 [3-5 in SEC] (not 12-2 as has been stated)
Coach Mac year 1: incomplete but currently 7-1

So, if you have to look further back to find another head coach with similar success in year one because it's clearly not Muschamp, who can you actually compare to?

Zook? Nope 8-5
Urban? perhaps 9-3
Spurrier? perhaps 9-2

So, at worst, you'll be able to compare Mac's first year to either Spurrier or Urban. Not bad.

Carry on.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:19 am to
doesn't take much to prompt a response thread from UF fans these days.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:20 am to
The response wasn't to you specifically actually. This PSA was apparently needed.

And, if not for trolling it would actually be a decent topic. But alas.
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 9:21 am
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:21 am to
You're not maintaining
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:22 am to
And my productivity goes way down again.
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:22 am to
And Muschamp's 12-2 was about as ugly a 12-2 as you'll ever see.
Posted by natcheztiger
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Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Seems to be some confusion about comparing Mac's first year to Boom's


I was happy when Florida hired Muschamp. Just did not think his resume supported getting that position.

Mac is a different story. I hate to say it, but I suspect we have another Saban in the league. To win the SEC, LSU probably has to beat one or both of them in the regular season and Mac again in the SECCG.

Never felt that kind of concern about Muschamp.
Posted by G8RnGA
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:43 am to
quote:

And Muschamp's 12-2 was about as ugly a 12-2 as you'll ever see.


True. Further in hindsight Dan Quinn go nowhere near the credit he deserved for that nasty defense. Look what he did with the Seahawks. Also, that defense was loaded, LOADED with Meyer's guys. Easely, Floydd, Bostwick, Jenkins, Floydd etc.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:49 am to
Let's compare him to Gus then. Hell,they both lost to LSU too.
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 9:52 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:53 am to
Why? Gus didn't coach the Gators. The incorrect comparison was made to a former UF coach to show that Mac wasn't good I suppose.

You could start a thread though and compare him to Gus, Saban, Sumlin, Carroll, Richt, etc.

Might be interesting. Just don't know how you could end the thread with so many coaches to compare to throughout history.

Mac never was a HS gimmick coach so I don't think comparing him to Gus would really be all that useful. Feel free though.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:57 am to
I remember how awestruck all the UF and Bama fans were with Muschamp's 2nd season too!

I'm sure he will win multiple championships based on almost one season's resume!
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:59 am to
How'd Muschamp do in year 2?
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 10:00 am to
Look at McElwains offense vs. Muschamps offense.

Case closed.
Posted by G8RnGA
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 10:02 am to
Hey frickface. Let's talk about Lester's "multiple" Championships less the ones he won with Saban's players since we are running around here cherry picking coaches and seasons to compare Mac to.

I'm waiting for your list.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 10:02 am to
Who has said any of that? I certainly have not.

It's clearly too early to make any judgments about what Mac will or won't do.

I'm just happy at the on and off field improvements our new head coach has made. It's night and day different.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 10:03 am to
When did Muschamp coach offense? shite I though he was a defensive guy the whole time. Maybe that's why we haven't improved much this year.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139642 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 10:03 am to
Year two he lucked his way to 12-2 and and finished the year getting embarrassed by UL. You knew that.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 10:04 am to
HC is responsible for just the D? Who knew?
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Who has said any of that? I certainly have not.

Maybe you haven't but several posters here have already proclaimed him the 2nd best coach in the SEC. Bama fans try to claim him as an extension of themeslves (as they did with Muschamp).
He may be a fantastic coach, I'm just saying one season doesn't make a career...and I say this having seen it happen twice in the past 5 years at my own school.
quote:

Muschamps offense

And yes he's in charge of the entire team, but let's not call it 'Muschamp's offense'. He made 3 hires and they all turned out poorly for one reason or another.
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 10:09 am
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Hey frickface. Let's talk about Lester's "multiple" Championships less the ones he won with Saban's players since we are running around here cherry picking coaches and seasons to compare Mac to. I'm waiting for your list.

Hi frickface. I don't have a clue what you are talking about. Simmer down.
I'm sorry I'm not ready to nominate your head coach for the hall of fame after a partial season.
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