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SEC Week One Baseball Predictive Stats

Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:30 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:30 pm
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To review those principles very briefly: for hitters in the low minors (i.e. a level similar to the better collegiate leagues), the metrics most predictive of major-league success (besides age) are strikeout rate (K%), isolated power (ISO), and batting average on balls in play (BABIP). For pitchers, the most important metrics are strikeout rate (K%) and, less important but also second-most relevant, walk rate (BB%). What I’ve done here is to combine regressed versions of those various metrics into a pair index stats: MPS+* for hitters (where 100 is league average and above 100 is better than league average) and MPS-* (where 100 is league average and below 100 is better than league average


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There are nearly one-thousand caveats to supply concerning the data here. Numbers don’t account at all for quality of opponent or park. Note that, as some conferences have less robust data than others, that I’ve had to provide (sensible) plate-appearance and batters-faced estimates in some cases. xK%, xISO, and xBABIP denote expected strikeout rate, isolated power, and batting average on balls in play, respectively. Stats are current through the weekend’s games


Top Batter
Jorge Gutierrez, C/2B, Texas A&M (Fr)

Top Draft-Eligible Batter
Greg Deichmann, COF, LSU (Jr)

Top Defensive-Type Batter
Jorge Gutierrez, C/2B, Texas A&M (Fr)

Top Pitcher
Dallas Woolfolk, RHP, Ole Miss (So)

Top Draft-Eligible Pitcher

Collin Snider, RHP, Vanderbilt (Jr)

Top Starter
Jackson Kowar, RHP, Florida (So)

This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 3:31 pm
Posted by warau
Member since Nov 2010
2576 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:32 pm to
Auburn will suck again. There's a predictive stat that you can actually bank on. Nothing like projecting data off of 3 or 4 games
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
144958 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:33 pm to
But it's fun
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:36 pm to
Chandler Taylor : 2nd best hitter in the SEC, strikes out 1 out of every 3 at bats


A TRUE 3 OUTCOME HITTER
Posted by Purplehaze44
Member since Jun 2015
1432 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:36 pm to
Poshe pitches a seven inning no no and he's not at least top ten? The hell is that about?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
144958 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:38 pm to
Didn't check his stats but his k% probably wasn't high
Posted by Purplehaze44
Member since Jun 2015
1432 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 3:40 pm to
It wasn't but still he had a perfect game, their only base runner reached on an error.

I might be biased but if another school's pitcher had thrown a no no and wasn't on there I'd feel that was dumb as well.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10548 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:01 pm to
I think LSU fans are confused by the rules of baseball:

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he had a perfect game, their only base runner reached on an error


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Perfect games and No-hitters:
An official perfect game occurs when a pitcher (or pitchers) retires each batter on the opposing team during the entire course of a game, which consists of at least nine innings. In a perfect game, no batter reaches any base during the course of the game.


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pitcher had thrown a no no


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An official no-hit game occurs when a pitcher (or pitchers) allows no hits during the entire course of a game, which consists of at least nine innings. In a no-hit game, a batter may reach base via a walk, an error, a hit by pitch, a passed ball or wild pitch on strike three, or catcher's interference.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64415 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:04 pm to
I know you thought it was hilarious to post that to rile some people up, but Poche has a perfect state line. He has pitched 7 innings, has allowed 0 hits, 0 earned runs, and has walked 0 batters. Whatever metric is used to make this list certainly has flaws if a pitcher with that line isn't in the top 10. No metric is perfect
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
144958 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:20 pm to
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Whatever metric is used to make this list certainly has flaws if a pitcher with that line isn't in the top 10
this isn't a list to decide who had the best performance over the weekend. This is taking the two best things that we have to predict future performance, K% and BB%, and using this past weekends stats to look in the future

This isn't saying he wasn't one of the 10 performers of the weekend, just that other people had performances that have more favorable predictions when trying to figure out future performance
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64415 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:24 pm to
I understand what the metric is trying to do, but like I said, all metrics have flaws. If you don't allow runners to reach base, then I'd say your predictive value should be pretty good
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:35 pm to
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It wasn't but still he had a perfect game, their only base runner reached on an error.

I might be biased but if another school's pitcher had thrown a no no and wasn't on there I'd feel that was dumb as well.


There isn't anywhere near enough of a sample size for this to be accurate. Plus the two things it looks for the most for pitchers is strikeout and walks.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
144958 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:36 pm to
Sure. But the whole point of this is that, for prediction purposes, a pitcher who allows the ball to be put in play isn't going to do well

Sure, there's an inherit flaw with that line of thinking, but that's what's happening with this
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29276 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:42 pm to
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This is taking the two best things that we have to predict future performance, K% and BB%


Do you even FIP or BABIP?

I'm betting that Poche's BABIP is pretty damn solid right about now.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50089 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:43 pm to
Love this stuff but the sample size is entirely too small.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29276 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:44 pm to
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Love this stuff but the sample size is entirely too small.


Which is why this whole thread including my comment is a damn farce.....and worthless.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50089 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:48 pm to
Not worthless. He's bring info and discussion to the board. Do it weekly and watch it change.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60090 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:48 pm to
Honestly the NCAA baseball season is too short to put a ton of stock into any statistics. 50-55 regular season games and like 1/3 of those are against shitty non con teams
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29276 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 4:50 pm to
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Not worthless.


You're right

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He's bring info


This is worth something I suppose.

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discussion to the board.


This is the worthless part....any discussion or conclusions drawn based on this data is a farce.

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Do it weekly and watch it change.


Correct...and over time you can draw pretty good correlations to future performance.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10405 posts
Posted on 2/21/17 at 6:01 pm to
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A pitcher who allows the ball to be put in play isn't going to do well


Tell that to Greg Maddux and all of the other great contact pitchers.
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