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SEC Coach's Hot Seat

Posted on 5/25/09 at 12:31 pm
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 12:31 pm
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Safe - second-year Arkansas coach Bobby Petrino, the only returning SEC football coach who had a losing season in 2008. The Razorbacks, who fielded one of the youngest teams in the country, actually made significant progress under Petrino.


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The nine returning coaches in SEC basketball also have fewer reasons than usual to be worried about job security. In a league dominated by underclassmen in 2008-09, the large majority of teams will be improved next season. And an improved team rarely leads to the firing of its coach.


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When the next school year begins, neither SEC football nor men's basketball has an obvious candidate for the proverbial coaching hot seat.



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In a league as competitive and high-paying as this one, there are only two ways for a coach to avoid criticism: win the most recent national championship game or take Vanderbilt to a bowl game.


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Bobby Johnson led Vanderbilt to a victory over Boston College in the Music City Bowl last December. He's good for another 27 years.


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Three SEC football coaches and three men's basketball coaches were fired this past school year. But that isn't necessarily bad news for the coaches in those sports who weren't fired.


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A firing storm of that magnitude is usually followed by a lull. In the aftermath, there's no SEC football coach who's on the brink of becoming an ex-SEC football coach.


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Tennessee, Auburn and Mississippi State just hired new coaches. Not even SEC programs fire football coaches after one season. So Lane Kiffin (UT), Gene Chizik (Auburn) and Dan Mullen (Mississippi State) are safe - as is second-year Arkansas coach Bobby Petrino.


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So how do you fill that void?

Best answer: By scrutinizing three of the SEC's most successful coaches - South Carolina's Steve Spurrier, Georgia's Mark Richt and LSU's Les Miles.


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Spurrier's Florida teams dominated the conference in the 1990s, and he's second only to Alabama's Bear Bryant for his coaching impact on SEC football. Certainly, he has improved South Carolina's program.


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It's not his record, so much as his offense, that's in question.

Miles' first three years at LSU were the best three years in school history. LSU fans are focusing on his fourth season, the first in which he didn't benefit from the players recruited by his predecessor, attributed, in part, to the coaching staff's selection of a quarterback and Miles' decision to use co-defensive coordinators.


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You have to look really hard to find shortcomings in Richt's eight-year run at Georgia. But SEC fans do look really hard.

Georgia has won three SEC championships, finished second nationally in 2007, and has been the most consistent program in the conference this decade.


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The presence of Saban at Alabama and Urban Meyer doesn't help Richt. They come across as tougher, more intense coaches, who are obsessed with winning. Moreover, both won big last season against Georgia.

Never mind that Georgia beat Alabama and Florida in 2007. SEC fans have short memories.


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Posted by Kige Ramsey
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 1:05 pm to
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Tennessee, Auburn and Mississippi State just hired new coaches. Not even SEC programs fire football coaches after one season. So Lane Kiffin (UT), Gene Chizik (Auburn) and Dan Mullen (Mississippi State) are safe - as is second-year Arkansas coach Bobby Petrino.



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Biased much?
Posted by GoBigOrange86
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 1:09 pm to
Kiffin IS safe. That's not a biased opinion.
Posted by GOBAMA90
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 1:14 pm to
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GoBigOrange86
SEC Coach's Hot Seat
Kiffin IS safe. That's not a biased opinion.


I agree.

The only logical answers to the hot seat question are Les Miles, Spurrier, and maybe Richt.
Posted by GoBigOrange86
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 1:17 pm to
I think Les is only on the hot seat if they repeat last year. If they had lost the Peach Bowl and gone 7-6 I would probably think he would really need to make a statement this year. As it is, I think if he does better than 8-4 he will be okay.
Posted by volwarrior33
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 1:27 pm to
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Biased much?


It's not like this is some random fan blog. This is a Scripps Newspaper. Plus, if you read this site daily you would know, they're not afraid to take shots at the Vols. Also, Kiffin is safe, unless he goes 0-12.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25270 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 1:33 pm to
Barring a catastrophic meltdown, Miles, Spurrier
and Richt should be safe.

Willie Martinez is definitely on the hot seat, tho.
Posted by S
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 2:29 pm to
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Bobby Johnson led Vanderbilt to a victory over Boston College in the Music City Bowl last December. He's good for another 27 years


Posted by lsutiger2486
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Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 2:35 pm to
Miles and Richt aren't even close to the hot seat. Spurrier hasn't had amazing seasons at USC; however, they are way better than something like 0-21.
Posted by GOBAMA90
Member since Oct 2008
2840 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 2:39 pm to
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lsutiger2486
SEC Coach's Hot Seat
Miles and Richt aren't even close to the hot seat. Spurrier hasn't had amazing seasons at USC; however, they are way better than something like 0-21.



The question is, who is the closest to being on the hot seat.

I guarantee if LSU has another season with 5 SEC losses he would be the coach closest to losing his job.

Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/25/09 at 2:39 pm to
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the first in which he didn't benefit from the players recruited by his predecessor


This is stupid.



The reason why LSU were mediocre last year:

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quarterback


Not Miles' fault. It was basically unavoidable.

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Miles' decision to use co-defensive coordinators.


His one big mistake and now he has corrected it. Not big enough to put him on the hot seat.
Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
6294 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 2:40 pm to
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I guarantee if LSU has another season with 5 SEC losses he would be the coach closest to losing his job.


You would be right, but that is a BIG if.
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 2:42 pm to
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The question is, who is the closest to being on the hot seat.

I guarantee if LSU has another season with 5 SEC losses he would be the coach closest to losing his job.


If Saban had another 6 loss season and lost to a team like ULM people would be screaming off with his head.

Posted by GOBAMA90
Member since Oct 2008
2840 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 2:43 pm to
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Barry Badrinath
SEC Coach's Hot Seat

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I guarantee if LSU has another season with 5 SEC losses he would be the coach closest to losing his job.



You would be right, but that is a BIG if.


I agree, but it's the best answer to the question...but who here thought LSU would drop 5 SEC games last year? Not me.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28593 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 2:44 pm to
one fun way to angle this argument is how much of a hotseat would each coach be if they were at YOUR own school...

Spurrier would have been out

Richt may have been out by now... (ie Bill Curry and his Auburn issue being similar to how Richt hasn't gotten a major title). Richt is an excellent coach imo by the way.

Kiffin would have been kicked out by now already.

Mullen never hired

Chizik never hired


Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
6294 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 2:45 pm to
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I agree, but it's the best answer to the question...but who here thought LSU would drop 5 SEC games last year? Not me.


After watching the Florida game, i knew it was possible. Other than Troy, I knew the rest of our SEC games were tossups. Didn't have a good feeling about UGA, OM, or Arky.
Posted by GOBAMA90
Member since Oct 2008
2840 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 2:47 pm to
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lsutiger2486
SEC Coach's Hot Seat

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The question is, who is the closest to being on the hot seat.

I guarantee if LSU has another season with 5 SEC losses he would be the coach closest to losing his job.



If Saban had another 6 loss season and lost to a team like ULM people would be screaming off with his head.



Sure would, and it would be deserved. The fact remains that he had an undefeated regular season last year, and all that a 6 loss season would do is put him in the hot seat for the next season...it's not an issue this year.
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 2:47 pm to
Any coach who has a shite season and doesn't have multiple seasons to back him up is going to be on the hot seat. If Miles wins 9-10 games he is not even close to the hot seat. The same goes for Richt. Their recent success does not favor worse results than that.

What if Nutt or Saban shite on themselves this season?
Posted by GOBAMA90
Member since Oct 2008
2840 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 2:53 pm to
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lsutiger2486
SEC Coach's Hot Seat
Any coach who has a shite season and doesn't have multiple seasons to back him up is going to be on the hot seat. If Miles wins 9-10 games he is not even close to the hot seat. The same goes for Richt. Their recent success does not favor worse results than that.

What if Nutt or Saban shite on themselves this season?



Again, not an issue this year.

I assume that we are talking about the likelihood of a coach being fired at the end of this season.
Taking that in to account, a bad season by either Saban or Nutt, just puts them in the hot seat conversation for the next year.
Another poor showing for Miles puts him in trouble for this seasons end.
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 5/25/09 at 2:53 pm to
I would like to say Tuberville finished with a bowl win and a top 15 team in 2007. He had the second logenst win streak in the Iron Bowl ever. He then had a 5-7 season in 2008 and was fired. I didn't think it was deserved, but many SEC fans did. So yes Saban is still vulnerable definitely since he shite on himself in a BCS bowl to a mid major team.
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