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SEC Basketball RPI, bracketology heading into this weekends SEC/Big 12 Challenge

Posted on 1/27/17 at 6:18 am
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 6:18 am
ESPN RPI

4. Kentucky(17-3)
11. Florida(15-5
17. South Carolina(15-4)
27. Arkansas(16-4)
46. Tennessee(10-9)
52. Georgia(11-8)
58. Vanderbilt(9-11)
63. Ole Miss(12-8)
66. Alabama(12-7)
70. aTm(11-8)
73. Auburn(13-7)
108. Miss State(13-6)
123. LSU(9-10)
255. Missouri(5-14)

Lunardi Bracketology

2. Kentucky
5. Florida
7. South Carolina
9. Arkansas

First Four Out: Georgia

CBS Bracketology

3. Kentucky
7. South Carolina
7. Florida
9. Arkansas


Teams w/NCAA Tourney hopes Saturday schedule

Kansas @ Kentucky
Florida @ Oklahoma
Arkansas @ Oklahoma State
Texas @ Georgia
Kansas State @ Tennessee

South Carolina @ Missouri(league game)

Posted by RocktownHog52
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 6:32 am to
Was our schedule that terrible that at 16-4 we are a 9 seed?
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 6:39 am to
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Was our schedule that terrible that at 16-4 we are a 9 seed?


A lot of the seeding is just the reputation of the SEC currently. CBS has South Carolina and Florida as 7 seeds, which is too low IMO.

No, Arkansas schedule is fine. Currently the issue is lack of top 50 RPI teams faced in league play. Arkansas lost to Florida and Kentucky but beat Tennessee on the road. Arkansas still has @ Scar, @ Florida, Georgia, Ok State as good wins that are out there.

Arkansas has good wins, but they're just outside the top 50 RPI. UT-Arlington(52), Houston(76), Vandy(58), North Dakota State(81), etc.

Arkansas has one bad loss to Mississippi State

Arkansas has a SOS of 57, which isn't terrible.
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 6:40 am
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 7:16 am to
SEC should go 4-1 in the Big12 challenge this weekend. That might help the SEC perception a bit.
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 7:23 am to
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this weekends SEC/Big 12 Challenge


What's this?

signed, Bama fans
PS. Thanks, ESPN for hating on us.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 8:11 am to
I like the game slate. I think South Carolina against KState would have been intriguing. As would Texas/Tennessee.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 8:18 am to
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Kansas State @ Tennessee


Tennessee isn't making the tournament w <20 wins due to being in the SEC. That would require them to nearly do a clean sweep of the SEC slate

Posted by Glory, Glory
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 8:22 am to
SCAR deserves a better seed than a 7. They will be a tough out come March with their tenacious D and two man punch of Thornwell and Dozier.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 8:23 am to
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Tennessee isn't making the tournament w <20 wins due to being in the SEC. That would require them to nearly do a clean sweep of the SEC slate


They've improved all season long and are a very good team.

I posted their remaining schedule the other day and they only have 2 games remaining against the top 4 teams in the league. If they finish 19-11(12-6) in the league, they will be in IMO. They have currently, the 4th toughest schedule in the nation according to RPI.

If they beat Kansas State at home this weekend....they're actually in a pretty good position heading into the last part of their schedule.
Posted by marshallcotiger
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:19 am to
What is the usual RPI range to get an NIT invite?
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:24 am to
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SEC should go 4-1 in the Big12 challenge this weekend


What? You're aware there are 10 games right?
Posted by MeatPants
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:26 am to
In general


Most of you would be right about teams like Tennessee, etc but this year there is going to be some considerable garbage in the tournament. How Michigan state is safely in right now is beyond my comprehension

Northwestern is about a lock. That should tell you something
Posted by hogminer
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:31 am to
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What? You're aware there are 10 games right?



Yes, I was referring to the 5 games he listed.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:32 am to
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but this year there is going to be some considerable garbage in the tournament.
People say this every year. Newsflash at 11: bubble teams are mediocre.

Vandy got in last year with a bad record in a statistically similar (maybe worse) SEC. 19-11 Tennessee would have more than a shot.

On another note, I think it's crazy that a 16-4 Arkansas team is close to the bubble, but no team in the SEC is going to get significant respect without beating Kentucky. Sucks, but that's the way it is.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 10:50 am to
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Vandy got in last year with a bad record in a statistically similar (maybe worse) SEC. 19-11 Tennessee would have more than a shot.


If Tennessee continues to play like they have, their RPI will be in the top 30. They beat Kansas State Saturday and split their 2 games with Scar and Florida and don't lose to someone they shouldn't, they'll be in as a 10 seed.

quote:

On another note, I think it's crazy that a 16-4 Arkansas team is close to the bubble, but no team in the SEC is going to get significant respect without beating Kentucky. Sucks, but that's the way it is.


Its why this weekend is important for the league. Perception alone gives teams in the league a hit. Arkansas is 16-4 with one "bad" loss to Miss State. Arkansas doesn't have any "remarkable" wins, but has a schedule full of solid wins this season.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:16 pm to
It'll be interesting to see if the Carlton Bragg/sexual assault stuff will be a big distraction for Kansas going into this weekend.
Posted by GameCocky88
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:21 pm to
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tenacious D







Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 1:40 pm to
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If Tennessee continues to play like they have, their RPI will be in the top 30. They beat Kansas State Saturday and split their 2 games with Scar and Florida and don't lose to someone they shouldn't, they'll be in as a 10 seed.


We don't play Tennessee again, although they do get another shot at South Carolina.
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 1:42 pm
Posted by GameCocky88
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 1:54 pm to
thing is... it is @ South Carolina.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 1:59 pm to
That's right. They have only have UK and SCar left out of the top 4 league teams.
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