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Scheme coaches vs Culture coaches

Posted on 9/25/16 at 8:41 am
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11065 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 8:41 am
Curious to know the board's thoughts on this. Seems there are two kinds do for coaches:

Scheme coaches -those who recruit to a particular system or variations of it.

Culture coaches- those who receive recruit to a culture of player development.

The scheme coaches seem to have the ability to show more immediate results but more wild fluctuations season to season, and the culture coaches seem to have a more sustainable model with less fluctuation season to season. There are exceptions of course.

Scheme:
Gus
Sumlin
Freeze
Mullen
Butch


Culture:
Saban
Beilema
McElwain
Kirby
Muschamp
Stoops
Miles

Don't know about Mason and dont care about Odom because I never see them either team play.


Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 8:52 am to
"Scheme" coaches are pretty much always offensive-minded coaches. "Culture" coaches tend to be defensive-minded, although there are a few exceptions (like McElwain on your list).

Is Miles scheme or culture? I'd argue he's a scheme coach. He adapts his players to his system, not his system to his players.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 8:55 am to
Miles is def a scheme coach. He likes athletic qbs that can run, physical skill position players..how can you call a coach who refused to kick Jeremy hill off the team a culture coach. now, hisscheme sucks, but he is a scheme coach
This post was edited on 9/25/16 at 8:57 am
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26078 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Scheme coaches -those who recruit to a particular system or variations of it.



I think Bielema definitely counts as scheme, you're just not used to thinking of his traditional play-action offense as a "scheme."

It is, though.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 9:04 am to
Bert is the definition of a culture coach. He recruits "uncommon" players in lieu of rankings. We've kicked some pretty damn good players from the team in lieu of culture. And shite when is the last time you heard an Arkansas player getting arrested or in trouble?

Bert says you recruiting your own problems. He wants a winning g culture above all elsw
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