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re: Saban brings in Houston HC(& former OSU OC)Herman to find out what went wrong...

Posted on 7/3/15 at 9:28 am to
Posted by 1loyalbamafan
alabama
Member since Mar 2015
2676 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 9:28 am to
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Gus is headed for 1-2 in the only game that matters to you goobs, and on the hot seat.


I think they hate UGA too.


And why would auburn take the UGA DB that caused "TheMiracle" in 13?
Posted by Buttermilk Pancakes
Philadelphia
Member since Jul 2013
2014 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 9:59 am to
It's one thing to get advisor and consult with people about what happened in a game, its another thing to execute it and face it. Herman could tell him everything he does but until Saban faces in head on it won't mean anything....
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
17584 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 10:10 am to
More from the interview

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Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart asked three Tide veteran defensive backs — Landon Collins, Nick Perry and Jarrick Williams — the same question following Alabama's Sugar Bowl loss to Ohio State in January.


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"I said ... "Where did we go wrong? What did we do wrong?" Smart shared during a radio interview Monday on 680 The Fan in Atlanta. "All three of them said they did not the respect the quarterback."



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"So I've coached about 14 years, 15 years," Smart said. "It was the most different situation we've ever had because of the quarterback situation. So you've got one quarterback on tape [Miller]. Then you've got another quarterback on tape [Barrett]. Then you've got one game on the quarterback."



Where did Alabama's defense go wrong entering Sugar Bowl?
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23106 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 11:03 am to
From Smart it almost feels he thinks he was lucky to be in the game at all. He said it could have been 21-21 instead of 21-6. OSU scored 36 more points from mid 2nd on.

As said, you should always look to get better so you give props to Herman and Saban for doing this.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25239 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 11:55 am to
Did all of Bama's TDs come from tOSU turnovers in the first half or was it just two of three?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72141 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 12:09 pm to
Honestly Alabama was lucky to be in in the Playoff with its inconsistent play thoughout the year. As for the game, both teams benefitted from turnovers.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 12:21 pm to
The secondary issues for Bama have been a problem for a few years now. The last two years, they were exposed by decent QBs and WRs. Prior to that, the SEC really did not have many QBs that could exploit their weaknesses.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72141 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 12:36 pm to
The secondary issue has been a talent and experience problem since 2012. We lost a lot of guys early there and have some big misses in DB recruiting at the same time. The massive influx of DB talent in the 2014 and 2015 classes is a start to fixing the issue. As is returning some experiences DBs like Cyrus Jones. But I also realize that having a defense like the 2011 version isn't happening again with current offenses.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30814 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 12:51 pm to
How badly must Saban be itching to get Gus in his office?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19670 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 1:04 pm to
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Did all of Bama's TDs come from tOSU turnovers in the first half or was it just two of three?

2 of them. 1st one was a fumble. then henry ran 25 yards, then sims 8 yards for a td. seceon bama td was a full drive. 3rd bama td was off interception, returnd for 32 yards then 15 yard drive to score. bama scored 14 off turnovers.

just looking at the box score again and rewatched the game game in 30 minutes. 139 of your rushing yards cam on 2 plays, one a whiff by depriest and one a big block on a true freshamn lb (and depriest also let himself get blocked by the same player spencer, was also in position to stop the run at the los), that should have been stopped for short gains. without those 2 runs you rushed for 142 yards on 40 tries, 3.55 yards per carry, and you would have not had 10 points (54 yard run led to field goal and 85 yard run was a td). it was how we (frustratingly) played all year. combine that with a pick six, 2 other costly ints, failure to capitalize on on extremely short punt out of the endzone, and a missed opportunity for a safety, and you get the result of that game. we would play great and then just surrender big plays. 186 of ohio states 537 yards came off their 4 biggest plays. as for costly turnovers, bama had a pick six, an int on the 1 yard line one play after an ohio stat was grounded at the bama 25 (probability of getting at least a field goal, and then another int to end our chance to tie the game with plenty of time on the board. Ohio state got 8 off turnovers, robbed us of at least 3 but probably 7, and then one to end the game tieing drive attempt
This post was edited on 7/3/15 at 1:35 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35474 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 1:31 pm to
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(7 play 40 yard drive, int came on 2nd and 2 with over a minute left at midfield)


I think you have this one wrong. The last int was on the last play of the game.

The pick 6 was in the third quarter.

The Vonn Bell interception was with 9:53 left in the game.

You can spin it anyway you want but for a large stretch of the game Ohio State shut Alabama down and moved the ball at will. JK Scott kept the game close with some out of this world punting.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19670 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 1:34 pm to
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I think you have this one wrong. The last int was on the last play of the game.

you are right. i was reading the time wrong on the play by play.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19670 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 1:39 pm to
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You can spin it anyway you want but for a large stretch of the game Ohio State shut Alabama down and moved the ball at will
thats certainly the prevailing thought, but if you take away the 4 biggest plays from each team, you get ohio state with 9.2 yards per play and 8.6 yards per play for bama (ie excepting explosive plays, both teams were moving the ball at a very close place per play). there were a couple consecutive drives where bama did a 3 and out, but we moved the ball just fine during the game on the whole. it really was a matter of a few plays difference (for instance cardale jones being able to use his hugeness to turn a surefire safety into just enough forward motion to get the ball out. 2 points and another possession for bama in a 7 point game). we should have just kept feeding henry till you stopped him, but kiffins main flaw as an OC is loving the pass even when the run is working
This post was edited on 7/3/15 at 1:44 pm
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25239 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 1:47 pm to
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JK Scott kept the game close with some out of this world punting.

Without that punter the game would have had a more lopsided score, for sure. How many Punts did Ohio State even have in the first half? It felt like Cardale connected on just about every 3rd and long he attempted.

Cardale got into trouble when Scott was pinning him deep what felt like the entire second half
This post was edited on 7/3/15 at 1:49 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35474 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 2:09 pm to
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we should have just kept feeding henry till you stopped him, but kiffins main flaw as an OC is loving the pass even when the run is working


I agree with the first part.

Kiffin? He just sucks man. I love when he raised his arms for a TD on the Vonn Bell interception. Classic case of someone that thinks he's smarter than he is.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 2:15 pm to
Here is Kiffin teaching passing techniques to the Bama QBs:

Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72141 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 2:16 pm to
Kiffin is a great OC. He just needs to be more balanced. Especially with the offensive line Alabama is building right now. The run game can be phenomenal.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35474 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 2:17 pm to
I can't disagree. I just think his ego gets in the way and he out thinks himself far too often.

Herman did the same until he really got into the rhythm of the offense.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19670 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 2:28 pm to
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Kiffin? He just sucks man. I love when he raised his arms for a TD on the Vonn Bell interception. Classic case of someone that thinks he's smarter than he is.
the td call there was perfect, bell was beat by howard, but sims put no loft on the pass and bell was able to leap and get it. if you are throwing to a 6'6 TE in the endzone, you put it up high. bad throw by sims, but the call was fine
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2278 posts
Posted on 7/3/15 at 2:30 pm to
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D on the Vonn Bell interception. Classic case of someone that thinks he's smarter than he is.

You're an idiot
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