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re: Returning SEC running backs against SEC Competition & Ranked teams

Posted on 5/30/15 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 1:18 pm to
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Yea it has nothing to do with Chubb being feature back and fournette sharing load with 3 other running backs and 2 of them were seniors. I swear people on here are half ratards


This is why the first criteria I used was yards per carry and didn't include total yards or yards per game. Even broke it down further by including a list of how each of those guys did against ranked teams. Every back on that list split carries - some more than others.

Chubb averaged 6 carries a game through the first 5 games and had 7 games of 13 carries or less.
This post was edited on 5/30/15 at 1:22 pm
Posted by tjv305
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 1:44 pm to
If LF was the greatest thing ever then he would not have been splitting carries with average backs. Maybe this year he will step up and carry the team like Chubb did. Nobody is saying that LF can't be as good as Chubb just that he hasn't proven it.

Is LF going to dominate this year like Chubb did last year? He don't shave those 2 SR backs to share carries with anymore. You guys are funny you act like LF was stuck behind the best RB in college football last year but that was Chubbs too . Now Chubbs will be he man all year .
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 1:47 pm to
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Yea it has nothing to do with Chubb being feature back and fournette sharing load with 3 other running backs and 2 of them were seniors. I swear people on here are half ratards


I believe Chubb averaged a whole 2 more carries per game than LF. Try another excuse.
Posted by LSU1SLU
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 1:49 pm to
Alright. Can't wait to bring those thread back up come football season. Everybody wants LF to fail bc of heismen stuff. It's funny how everybody in sec is Chubb fan. He's a beast but didnt have to split carries like LF did once gurley got injured
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 1:49 pm to
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Chubb is a beast, but it's easy to look at stats when he came in to the best situation.


Ummmm...coming in behind Gurley, you mean? Playing sparingly until the 5th game of the season? Like that?

Posted by LSU1SLU
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 1:50 pm to
Ok well how many carries did he have first 4 games vs rest of season. Or every game gurley played how many carries vs rest
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 1:52 pm to
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He's a beast but didnt have to split carries like LF did once gurley got injured


You mean in game 5? Good point!

You DO realize that their number of carries were similar, right? I think Chubb got 27 carries more than Chubb and something like 300 more yards? If you don't like the way Fournette got used, blame Miles, not Chubb or Georgia.
Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 1:52 pm to
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Yards Per Carry
Leonard Fournette (LSU) - 4.78
Jonathan Williams (Ark) - 4.46
Alex Collins (Ark) - 4.44

Touchdowns
Alex Collins (Ark) - 6
Jonathan Williams (Ark) - 4
Leonard Fournette (LSU) - 4

Rushing Attempts per Touchdown (vs SEC)

Alex Collins (Ark) - 19.5
Leonard Fournette (LSU) - 31.75
Jonathan Williams (Ark) - 32.25

vs Ranked teams (all conferences)

Jonathan Williams (Ark) - 4.42ypc / 2 TD
Alex Collins (Ark) - 4.29ypc / 4 TD
Leonard Fournette (LSU) - 4.20ypc / 0 TD

Receiving

Jonathan Williams (Ark) - 8 rec, 42 yards, 1 TD
Leonard Fournette (LSU) - 3 rec, 42 yards, 0 TD
Alex Collins (Ark) - 3 rec, 9 yards, 0 TD



Both of our backs were as good as LF. They had more total yards on the season too. And they were splitting some of the carries with Korliss Marshall before he was dismissed from the team.

But no way I'd argue either of our backs was as good as Chubb last year.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 1:53 pm to
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Ok well how many carries did he have first 4 games vs rest of season. Or every game gurley played how many carries vs rest


He had 27 more carries than Fournette. ok?

ETA: My bad...32 more carries and 513 more yards.
This post was edited on 5/30/15 at 1:56 pm
Posted by CrimsonChin
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 1:58 pm to
Corndogs really looking stupid up in here.
Posted by LSU1SLU
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 2:02 pm to
Ignore question. Ok
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 2:04 pm to
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Corndogs really looking stupid up in here.



I tend to agree. Shoot...Fournette, Henry and a couple of other RB's could finish better than Chubb in the coming season, but all we have to go by is what they have already done. The SEC is loaded at RB. Right now, statistics say Chubb is the best. Next year this time we might be saying the same about Fournette. Or Derrick Henry. Or Robinson. Or Wilds....I get it. They are proud of their RB. So is UGA. So is Alabama. So is everybody. I think LSU is just more......adamant?
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 2:07 pm to
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Ignore question. Ok


Ok. Explain what difference it makes, please? They had almost the same number of carries on the year. If you want to ask a question then YOU provide the answer. I'm not doing the research for you. I made my point. They had a difference of 32 carries and 500+ yards. Want to guess who had more yards? If they had had the exact same number of carries you want to guess which one would have had more yards and more touchdowns?
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 2:10 pm to
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Everybody wants LF to fail bc of heismen stuff.


No they don't. They want him to fail because LSU fans put unrealistic expectations on him. You make superhuman claims that nobody could live up to.
Posted by LSU1SLU
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 2:24 pm to
Sounds funny coming from UGA fans who already have anointed chubbs as second coming of Herschel Walker. Well we will go with Bo Jackson since we know he was better
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 2:30 pm to
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Sounds funny coming from UGA fans who already have anointed chubbs as second coming of Herschel Walker. Well we will go with Bo Jackson since we know he was better


No we haven't. Before last season we were pumped about Gurley. We never went around the Rant saying Chubb would win the Heisman. We DO feel like Chubb, at this point, is better than Fournette. And his statistics back us up. LSU fans, on the other hand, will look at the statistics and still claim Fournette is better right now because......because....well, because!


And by the way.....Bo Jackson was excellent! I LOVE Bo Jackson. I can't really say who was better between Jackson and Walker. I FEEL like Walker was better, but I also know I feel that way because I am an UGA fan. I just feel fortunate to have seen them both play.
Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 2:35 pm to
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who already have anointed chubbs as second coming


It was LSU fans that dubbed LF as a "once in a generation" type player.

Why is it that 13/14 fanbases pretty much universally accept the fact that out of all of the current backs, Nick Chubb has been the best thus far and yet LSU fans refuse to accept this?
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 2:37 pm to
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From what you posted, Chubb was the best of those rbs last year.


And there is the key. Last year. This season it could all change.

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if he can play at that level again, he should be one of the best again


He got more carries last season because of injuries, and Gurley's suspension. I think he will split more of his carries this season. I might be wrong, but I expect his numbers to regress a little.

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The season hasn't started and the SEC backs are loaded this year. The best back is up for grabs.


Absolutely. Next off season we could be talking about about 4-5 other RB's putting up the best numbers. It'll be exciting to watch all that talent!
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 2:39 pm to
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It was LSU fans that dubbed LF as a "once in a generation" type player.

Why is it that 13/14 fanbases pretty much universally accept the fact that out of all of the current backs, Nick Chubb has been the best thus far and yet LSU fans refuse to accept this?


One thing i think we can all agree on is there are a LOT of good backs in the SEC. Arkansas has a couple, Wilds, Fournette, Robinson, Henry, Hurd we can go on and on....
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 2:47 pm to
I'm not arguing that Chubb has been better so far. I know he has. Have I yet to say LF has played better!
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