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re: Returning SEC running backs against SEC Competition & Ranked teams
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:57 pm to JayDeerTay84
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:57 pm to JayDeerTay84
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You said NO OTHER BACKS WERE CLOSE.
Which one is?
Fournette?
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:58 pm to GoldenDawg
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The difference between Hurd/Chubb last season are the big chunk runs.
That's it? That's your argument that Hurd is as good as Chubb? That Chubb broke off some big runs last year and Hurd couldn't because of blocking?
wow. Okay, how about against piss poor defenses with piss poor DLs? How did Hurd do then?
Vandy - longest run = 9 yards.
Kentucky - longest run = 14 yards.
Arkansas State - longest run = 12 yards.
Chattanooga - longest run = 7 yards.
Utah State - longest run = 7 yards.
Sorry, but that's just bad. I don't care who you have blocking for you.
Next excuse?
Looks like a terrible Oline as we'll. kinda highlights his point.
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This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:58 pm to GoldenDawg
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Returning SEC running backs against SEC Competition & Ranked teams
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You said NO OTHER BACKS WERE CLOSE.
Which one is?
Fournette?
I need you to confirm you understood what I said.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:59 pm to Vol92
Everyone knows running backs are a product of O-lines. But you also can't take credit away from a RB just because their O-line is good. And no one besides homers give their RBs more credit just because their O-line is bad.
I've never seen an asterisk in any record book that said "*But he had a better O-line than the other RBs".
Chubb is easily the best back in the SEC. No one besides LSU fans would argue for LF. And if you think Chubb is only running through wide open holes then you haven't watched him breaking tackles and hurdling players.
I've never seen an asterisk in any record book that said "*But he had a better O-line than the other RBs".
Chubb is easily the best back in the SEC. No one besides LSU fans would argue for LF. And if you think Chubb is only running through wide open holes then you haven't watched him breaking tackles and hurdling players.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:01 pm to Tuscaloosa
Stanley Williams (UK)
v. SEC
YPC - 4.65
TDs - 1
Rushes per TD - 40
Receiving - 14/149/1
v. Ranked
Rushing - 39 rushes, 263 yards, 3 TDs (6.74 YPC)
Receiving - 9 receptions, 72 yards
v. SEC
YPC - 4.65
TDs - 1
Rushes per TD - 40
Receiving - 14/149/1
v. Ranked
Rushing - 39 rushes, 263 yards, 3 TDs (6.74 YPC)
Receiving - 9 receptions, 72 yards
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:01 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Looks like a terrible Oline as we'll. kinda highlights his point.
Yet he managed to break a long one off against Oklahoma.
But not Kentucky, Vandy, Arkansas State, Chattanooga or Utah State (among others).
I'm thinkin' maybe Hurd just ain't near as good as Chubb and he's just flailing away trying to find an excuse for his player.
FWIW, the Rams drafted Gurley #10 because he was able to do what he did with a substandard OL that the Rams believe will not have one player drafted.
Chubb did the same thing with that substandard OL.
Next argument?
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:02 pm to JayDeerTay84
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I need you to confirm you understood what I said.
Uh, you need a heckuva lot more than that.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:05 pm to GoldenDawg
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Returning SEC running backs against SEC Competition & Ranked teams
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I need you to confirm you understood what I said.
Uh, you need a heckuva lot more than that.
So Henry is just some scrub who could wish to be half as good as Chubb?
Don't back track. You said no one was even close. It's absurd, I know.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:07 pm to JayDeerTay84
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So Henry is just some scrub who could wish to be half as good as Chubb?
Please link to the post where I said Henry "is just some scrub".
Pretty sad to make up quotes to strengthen a very weak argument.
Look, I think Herschel Walker and Bo Jackson were a LOT better than Chubb. But that don't mean I think Chubb is a scrub now, does it?
Try to keep up, sport.
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:10 pm to GoldenDawg
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So Henry is just some scrub who could wish to be half as good as Chubb?
Please link to the post where I said Henry "is just some scrub".
Pretty sad to make up quotes to strengthen a very weak argument.
Look, I think Herschel Walker and Bo Jackson are a LOT better than Chubb. But that don't mean I think Chubb is a scrub now, does it?
Try to keep up, sport.
Har far should you dig? Chubb has way better YPC than HW. Aren't stats all that matters?
You just can't admit you don goofed and went full retard over Chubb. It's ok. He is an elite back, but there are a few more elite backs in the SEC that stack up.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:10 pm to JDHLaw
Jojo Kemp (UK)
v. SEC
YPC - 46/242 (5.26 YPC)
TDs - 3
Rushes per TD - 15.3
Receiving - 2/5
v. Ranked
Rushing - 5/11 (2.2 YPC)
Receiving - 0/0
v. SEC
YPC - 46/242 (5.26 YPC)
TDs - 3
Rushes per TD - 15.3
Receiving - 2/5
v. Ranked
Rushing - 5/11 (2.2 YPC)
Receiving - 0/0
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:13 pm to Tuscaloosa
If the OP is updated, UK RBs will have the highest YPC against ranked opponents (Boom Williams) and least amount of rushing attempts per TD against SEC opponents (Jojo Kemp).
Best backfield in the nation!
Best backfield in the nation!
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:14 pm to JDHLaw
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Returning SEC running backs against SEC Competition & Ranked teams
If the OP is updated, UK RBs will have the highest YPC against ranked opponents (Boom Williams) and least amount of rushing attempts per TD against SEC opponents (Jojo Kemp).
Best backfield in the nation!
Dude. Chubb
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:16 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Har far should you dig? Chubb has way better YPC than HW. Aren't stats all that matters?
You just can't admit you don goofed and went full retard over Chubb. It's ok. He is an elite back, but there are a few more elite backs in the SEC that stack up.
I think your arguments here are instructive. You highlight the LSU fan that gets his panties in a wad when anyone, not just a Georgia fan (see the OP for reference) dares make the wild claim that Chubb is by far the best returning RB in the SEC. Even though every stat that can be dreamed up by the mind of man confirms it. Every single one.
You somehow make the strained leap that praise of Chubb means that Fournette sucks, Fournette is a scrub, Fournette should have taken up soccer, or some such other nonsense.
Relax please. Just because Chubb had a much (and I mean MUCH) better season than LF does not demean LF given that Chubb had one of the more amazing seasons in SEC history for a true freshman. LF is an amazing RB and I wish UGA had him. And yeah, we would probably use him a lot smarter than Miles has. Fournette will have a great year next year and he may even surpass Chubb, Walker, Bo, and whoever else you want to put in here by the end of his career.
But the first year stats do not come close to bearing that out. It would just be your opinion. The opinion of an LSU fan about an LSU back. But yeah, Fournette is an outstanding SEC RB. Everyone can agree on that, and I think everyone does.
So relax. Fournette doesn't have to be the very best in the conference to be very, very good.
Hope that helps.
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:19 pm to GoldenDawg
I already said LF7 was about 4th in the league so again, you argue with yourself.
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:20 pm to JayDeerTay84
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I already said LF7 was about 4th in the league so again, you argue with yourself.
And Chubb is number one. By far.
Glad you agree with me.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:22 pm to GoldenDawg
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And Chubb is number one. By far.
Nope. It isn't by far.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:22 pm to JDHLaw
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If the OP is updated, UK RBs will have the highest YPC against ranked opponents (Boom Williams) and least amount of rushing attempts per TD against SEC opponents (Jojo Kemp).
Best backfield in the nation!
I didn't include Boom or Jojo because neither had more than 100 carries total on the year. They had 70 and 74 attempts total, respectively. Boom had 40 attempts against SEC competition, and Jojo had 46.
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:25 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Nope. It isn't by far.
Here we go again.
Look, I'm just agreeing with the OP, who said it thusly:
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Observations: Nick Chubb is the clear cut best running back in the conference at this point. I'm not sure there's a close 2nd as we enter the 2015 season. He had 8 games of averaging more than 7 yards per carry - averaging 8+ in 6 of those contests.
This is from an Alabama fan, who also has a better back than LF in Derrick Henry. This doesn't mean Henry sucks. Henry is a frickin' beast. It just means that Chubb's stats are that much better.
You can't see this because of your homerism. It's as simple as that. And that's okay. It's a common malady in college football fans and I don't think the less of you for it. Even if I am a "dumb redneck" and all.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 9:26 pm to Tuscaloosa
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I didn't include Boom or Jojo because neither had more than 100 carries total on the year. They had 70 and 74 attempts total, respectively. Boom had 40 attempts against SEC competition, and Jojo had 46.
Discrimination!
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