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Rebel Rag owner: "what makes the store successful, because I’m so involved in the school.”
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:42 am
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:45 am to StopRobot
Did you just pull an article from 2015?
Holy shite you're obsessed with this.
Holy shite you're obsessed with this.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:46 am to pankReb
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Did you just pull an article from 2015?
Holy shite you're obsessed with this.
Yes. WAAAAAAAY back in 2015. I was obsessed with Tennessee yesterday and then LSU last week. It comes and goes
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:51 am to StopRobot
So what are you saying? There isn't much to gain from a lawsuit against people without means. He's doing it solely on principle and in doing so is exposing himself to people digging more into his business and his relationship with the university. If he was doing anything illegal he wouldn't be filing a lawsuit. What would be the point?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:52 am to Whereisomaha
Obviously I must have missed something. Lawsuit? What happened?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:56 am to Whereisomaha
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If he was doing anything illegal he wouldn't be filing a lawsuit. What would be the point?
B/c if he's dissociated from Ole Miss his business suffers tremendously. If he fights in a lawsuit then the perception from Ole Miss fans is exactly what you've communicated "he must not have done anything wrong or he wouldn't file the suit". If he just sits there and takes it then the de facto admission kills his business. The law suit (let's see how far he takes it) if nothing else buys him time. It's a solid strategy regardless of innocence or guilt of ncaa rules violations, which, by the way, he never agreed to abide by. He's a business owner, not a voluntary member of the NCAA.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:48 am to bamasgot13
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B/c if he's dissociated from Ole Miss his business suffers tremendously. If he fights in a lawsuit then the perception from Ole Miss fans is exactly what you've communicated "he must not have done anything wrong or he wouldn't file the suit". If he just sits there and takes it then the de facto admission kills his business. The law suit (let's see how far he takes it) if nothing else buys him time. It's a solid strategy regardless of innocence or guilt of ncaa rules violations, which, by the way, he never agreed to abide by. He's a business owner, not a voluntary member of the NCAA.
One would assume that he would have to prove that he has been materially harmed by decreasing sales. Does dissociation mean that he can't sell Ole Miss apparel and paraphernalia?
Also, I see that you read the SI article or something similar since you quoted it in your last two sentences.
Regardless, Kool-Aid sipping Ole Miss fans who think this will save them are fooling themselves.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:00 pm to JohnnyU
They are assuming that if Rebel Rags is disassociated as booster they will lose their Licensing Rights to Ole Miss merch. Notice that key word their... assume. None of that has happened... yet. The NCAA can do whatever they want including forcing a member institution's booster to be disassociated. I would think that the lawsuit should be against the member institution and Hugh Freeze for a Lack of Institutional control for not effectively communicating to the booster things that violate the NCAA's rules. If this happens we could see Wal-mart follow up as well... because it could hurt their enrollment which would then in turn hurt their bottom line. See what i did there. I made a huge assumption and followed the same line of logic the idiot at Rebel Rags is doing
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:10 pm to yatesdog38
So Rebel Rags has to sit back and watch themselves get disassociated based on contradicting and untruthful stories from rival players?
Or do they have the right to fight back and get to the bottom of the number of different tales told by Leo Lewis and others?
Can I make something up about Company A and watch them get shut down while not being able to tell their side of the story?
Or do they have the right to fight back and get to the bottom of the number of different tales told by Leo Lewis and others?
Can I make something up about Company A and watch them get shut down while not being able to tell their side of the story?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:11 pm to StopRobot
The NCAA ruling should come down for OlMiss this year, I guess? This Rebel Rags lawsuit won't see a court docket for a couple of years, based on MS history.
How will the NCAA ruling affect this guys claim? What if he's already branded as a disassociated booster by the time this goes to court? Does that make this claim frivolous? How can he prove that the testimony of those 2 kids is specifically what cost him revenue?
This case is just too good to make up
How will the NCAA ruling affect this guys claim? What if he's already branded as a disassociated booster by the time this goes to court? Does that make this claim frivolous? How can he prove that the testimony of those 2 kids is specifically what cost him revenue?
This case is just too good to make up
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:19 pm to pankReb
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Holy shite you're obsessed with this
Uh this is a massive story that isn't going away anytime soon and will have huge ramifications on Ole Miss and by default the SEC. Of course we are all paying close attention to everything
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:21 pm to Vecchio Cane
His diminished revenue steam could be the result of a really crappy OM season where the team failed to make a bowl game. It could also be the effects of OM self imposed bowl ban for the upcoming season. There are a number of reasons why his store sales are down that aren't related to the testimony of a couple of SA's in an NCAA investigation.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:21 pm to Lord Orgeron
Borrowed from another board: You decide
Regarding Rebel Rags
Allegation #9:
a. Between Jan. 25-27, 2013 Kiffin arranged for Lyndsey Miller to receive $400 free merchandise from Rebel Rags.
b. One time between March 28 and Nov. 30, 2014 Farrar arranged for Leo to get $400 free merchandise from Rebel Rags.
c. Four times between Sept. 4, 2015 and Jan. 31 2016 Farrar arranged for Kobe Jones to get $500 from Rebel Rags for a total of $2,000.
Response:
Miller:
1. Miller’s and Jones’ claims were previously investigated by the enforcement staff the summer of 2015 and the enforcement staff did not find them credible.
2. Tunsil and his mom deny free merchandise (of course) but two other Tunsil family members deny it as well.
3. Miller never produced any of the free stuff allegedly received.
4. A 2013 student athlete that signed with Institution 11 denies receiving free merchandise.
Lewis:
5. Rebel Rags’ records show no gift cards (alleged payment was with some kind of card") over $250 were redeemed the summer of 2014.
6. On the July 2014 weekend Leo alleges to have gotten over $300 worth of stuff including a baseball jersey, Rebel Rags’ records show no transactions over $300 that include a baseball jersey.
7. Leo alleges the use of security tags which Rebel Rags does not have.
8. Three 2015 student athletes that signed with MSU (two of which are friends/cousins of Leo) deny receiving free merchandise.
Jones
9. Rebel Rags records for the 2016 official visit weekend (the only weekend Jones specifically gives a date) do not support Jones’ claims because the merchandise for the three transactions over $300 that occurred that weekend do not include “merchandise in size or type that would fit a young male weighing 260+ pounds.”
10. Jones’ high school coach took him to most of his eight visits to Oxford and the coach denies seeing Jones with any merchandise other than a baseball cap and jersey which the coach purchased for Jones.
11. A five-star 2016 student athlete that signed with MSU denies receiving free merchandise.
Regarding Rebel Rags
Allegation #9:
a. Between Jan. 25-27, 2013 Kiffin arranged for Lyndsey Miller to receive $400 free merchandise from Rebel Rags.
b. One time between March 28 and Nov. 30, 2014 Farrar arranged for Leo to get $400 free merchandise from Rebel Rags.
c. Four times between Sept. 4, 2015 and Jan. 31 2016 Farrar arranged for Kobe Jones to get $500 from Rebel Rags for a total of $2,000.
Response:
Miller:
1. Miller’s and Jones’ claims were previously investigated by the enforcement staff the summer of 2015 and the enforcement staff did not find them credible.
2. Tunsil and his mom deny free merchandise (of course) but two other Tunsil family members deny it as well.
3. Miller never produced any of the free stuff allegedly received.
4. A 2013 student athlete that signed with Institution 11 denies receiving free merchandise.
Lewis:
5. Rebel Rags’ records show no gift cards (alleged payment was with some kind of card") over $250 were redeemed the summer of 2014.
6. On the July 2014 weekend Leo alleges to have gotten over $300 worth of stuff including a baseball jersey, Rebel Rags’ records show no transactions over $300 that include a baseball jersey.
7. Leo alleges the use of security tags which Rebel Rags does not have.
8. Three 2015 student athletes that signed with MSU (two of which are friends/cousins of Leo) deny receiving free merchandise.
Jones
9. Rebel Rags records for the 2016 official visit weekend (the only weekend Jones specifically gives a date) do not support Jones’ claims because the merchandise for the three transactions over $300 that occurred that weekend do not include “merchandise in size or type that would fit a young male weighing 260+ pounds.”
10. Jones’ high school coach took him to most of his eight visits to Oxford and the coach denies seeing Jones with any merchandise other than a baseball cap and jersey which the coach purchased for Jones.
11. A five-star 2016 student athlete that signed with MSU denies receiving free merchandise.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:26 pm to fillmoregandt
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Regarding Rebel Rags Allegation #9:
The funniest part, to me, is the statement that claims that the merchandise that SA#40 was seen with "wouldn't fit a young male weighing 260 lbs"
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:29 pm to Vecchio Cane
If it don't fit, you must acquit!
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:37 pm to fillmoregandt
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Borrowed from another board: You decide
Easy, fricking guilty!!!
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:37 pm to fillmoregandt
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This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:51 pm to fillmoregandt
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watch themselves get disassociated based on contradicting and untruthful stories from rival players?
Dey didenbdoo nuffin wrong, man. Right.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:55 pm to StopRobot
Sounds almost as slimy as T-Town Menswear.
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