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re: Rank the SEC Heisman winners
Posted on 6/23/17 at 3:47 pm to spacewrangler
Posted on 6/23/17 at 3:47 pm to spacewrangler
quote:
Kinda hard to compare QBs and RBs so I will separate them. Based on season stats.
QBs
Manziel
Cam
Tebow
Wuerful
Old Guys
RBs
Henry
Bo
Walker
Ingram
*Rogers not SEC at the time
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 3:51 pm to spacewrangler
quote:
RBs
Henry
Bo
Walker
quote:
QBs
Manziel
Cam
This has to be a troll.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 4:11 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Thank you CGSC Lobotomy. LSU fans appreciate your work.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 4:13 pm to weagle99
Derrick Henry does not get enough love. He may not be the best player in conference history to win the Heisman, but he did rush for more yards and more TDs in a single season than any other player in SEC history. And he played his best when the spotlight was at its brightest.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 6/23/17 at 4:13 pm to texag7
Manziel, Bo, Tebow, Cam
The 4 horseman of SEC history.
The 4 horseman of SEC history.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 5:11 pm to spacewrangler
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RBs
Bo
Walker
*Rogers not SEC at the time
and yet Big George played more/higher nationally ranked teams (@#4,@#17,@#4,#3N) in his 1980 campaign than Walker did (#16,#20,#2N) in 1982. quite comparable to what Bo played (#4,#2 @#12 #11N) in 1985.
YPC in winning campaigns;
6.4 Jackson
6.0 Rogers
5.2 Walker
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 6/23/17 at 5:31 pm to RollTide1987
Henry was a beast, no doubt. He just is unlucky enough to be going up against some of the best of all-time, not just SEC, in this discussion.
I don't think he's on the same level of raw athleticism as Herschel and Bo.
And people are going to hold against him that his OL and whole team were much better than the others.
Bo, Herschel, Cam, and Tebow all have legitimate arguments as the GOAT for all of CFB at their position. Being behind that group isn't anything to be ashamed of
I don't think he's on the same level of raw athleticism as Herschel and Bo.
And people are going to hold against him that his OL and whole team were much better than the others.
Bo, Herschel, Cam, and Tebow all have legitimate arguments as the GOAT for all of CFB at their position. Being behind that group isn't anything to be ashamed of
Posted on 6/23/17 at 5:51 pm to BowlJackson
It's really hard to say that Bo or Herschel was markedly better than the other. Yes, Bo had high YPC...Herschel had more total yards and TD's.
Yes, Herschel had a lot more carries...Bo didn't have to operate from the disadvantage of everyone in the stadium knowing he was getting the ball more than 50% of the time the ball was snapped.
There are a dozen or more arguments for one or the other....I'll take either of them and not cry about which one I didn't get.
The only true and solemn fact of this argument is that they are both better than everyone else mentioned and it's silly to mention anyone else in the same breath with those two with regard to career SEC accomplishment.
Note: Yes...Billy Cannon was a badass white boy...he wasn't Bo or Herschel.
Yes, Herschel had a lot more carries...Bo didn't have to operate from the disadvantage of everyone in the stadium knowing he was getting the ball more than 50% of the time the ball was snapped.
There are a dozen or more arguments for one or the other....I'll take either of them and not cry about which one I didn't get.
The only true and solemn fact of this argument is that they are both better than everyone else mentioned and it's silly to mention anyone else in the same breath with those two with regard to career SEC accomplishment.
Note: Yes...Billy Cannon was a badass white boy...he wasn't Bo or Herschel.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 6:09 pm to iglass
You know how awesome it would have been if UGA and AU played with Bo and Herschel on the teams? It would have been the real game of the century.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 6:27 pm to weagle99
Manziel is the best QB to ever put on an SEC uniform. That's not opinion. It's fact.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:01 pm to Aggie Fishfinder
quote:Well, that's just incredibly false. He isn't even the best guy since 2010.
Manziel is the best QB to ever put on an SEC uniform. That's not opinion. It's fact.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:05 pm to TTsTowel
Stats say otherwise
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:12 pm to 1801
quote:
and yet Big George played more/higher nationally ranked teams (@#4,@#17,@#4,#3N) in his 1980 campaign than Walker did (#16,#20,#2N) in 1982. quite comparable to what Bo played (#4,#2 @#12 #11N) in 1985.
YPC in winning campaigns;
6.4 Jackson
6.0 Rogers
5.2 Walker
He was a badass, no doubt. BUT he was not an SEC Heisman winner. Therefore, ineligible for the discussion.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:28 pm to texag7
quote:
Manziel everyone else
Not without championships
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:29 pm to weagle99
You forgot to list the Ole Miss winners
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:31 pm to PeaRidgeWatash
quote:
Not without championships
Heisman's are awarded before the championship game. It is based on a regular season of work.
Statistically Manziel's is the greatest from the QB position in SEC history.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:34 pm to texag7
Lol@you. Manuel? Naw. I'd say one of the Gators maybe all 3 as the top 3
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:50 pm to Weagle25
quote:
This has to be a troll.
Again for the reading comprehension impaired, I listed them based on stats: which player had the best season and rank them according to the stats.
RB Stats for their Heisman Season.
A-Rushing yds 2219 5.6 28 Rec yds 91 8.3 0 Scrimmage yds 2310 5.7 28
B-Rushing yds 1658 6.1 17 Rec yds 334 10.4 3 Scrimmage yds 1992 6.6 20
C-Rushing yds 1891 4.9 18 Rec yds 84 6.0 2 Scrimmage yds 1975 4.9 20
D-Rushing yds 1786 6.4 17 Rec yds 73 18.3 0 Scrimmage yds 1859 6.6 17
Player A had the best season by far. Most yards rushing, most from scrimmage and the most TDs. B was more versatile than the others and tied for 2nd most TDs had the 2nd higher YPC. Player D was most explosive has the highest YPC and YPT. Player C looks like a workhorse.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:53 pm to texag7
quote:
Stats say otherwise
Top 5 Quarterbacks of all time:
Timmy Chang
Colt Brennan
Kliff Kingsbury
Graham Harrell
Case Keenum
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:56 pm to spacewrangler
Means nothing without the variables. Like what offense they played in. How good was their team and their OL. What era did they play in. All these things factor in. And like it or not so do the eye ball test and high light reels
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