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re: Question to Aggies on Knight?

Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:49 am to
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:49 am to
Stabaneck? Do we pass all the time or not?
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4538 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:49 am to
And you will? Our defense was as good or better than yours was last year, and return just as many players.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:50 am to


When your QB can't throw you have to run more. Don't act like you're a power rushing team.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:51 am to
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Stabaneck? Do we pass all the time or not?


Yes.....when all your passing QBs aren't transferring.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:51 am to
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You're an air-raid team. He needs to be quite a bit better than "average".


You are consistently one of the most football-dumb posters on this website.

Were Sonny Cumbie, Graham Harrell or Kilff Kingsbury, who all put up astonishing numbers in an air raid system, quite a bit better than average? No. That's why they didn't play in the NFL. They were system QBs. They don't have to be great. That's THE WHOLE POINT.

The air-raid takes the pressure OFF of the QB in a lot of ways and does NOT require as much talent as other systems.

It is much, much simpler conceptually and in execution and thus requires less thinking, less memorization, and allows more focus on perfecting a few plays disguised under slightly different formations and alignments with mostly short, high completion percentage throws.

Knight doesn't have to be very good. He just needs to execute within the system and the quality of athlete we have at WR and on defense will take care of the rest.
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 10:55 am
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30589 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:52 am to
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Oh not saying he won't play, because he will, but Chavis will give minutes to older guys alllll the time that should go to younger more, talanted guys.




Just an example for the Aggies so they understand better. At LSU Chavis was starting freaking Welter over Kendell Beckwith at linebacker all because Welter was a senior. The talent gap between the two was embarrassingly bad. Beckwith was a Butkus award semi finalist last year and would have been drafted this year if he did not come back. He should be a 1st to 2nd round draft pick after this year.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17330 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:52 am to
His career numbers, which I've posted on this site before, are on par with Josh Dobbs and Brandon Harris. He's not great, and we don't expect him to be, but we're starting to think that he's good enough that we can win. Time will tell.
Posted by Aggie Fishfinder
Republic of Texas
Member since Feb 2012
4260 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:53 am to
Are you laughing at OU? They are the ones that took one of those QBs that can't throw...
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:53 am to
I honestly don't even think you follow OU, which likely makes you a fan of some other SEC West team


FYI that shitty freshman QB you mentioned on the last page is your starter next year, enjoy
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4538 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:55 am to
Except Mack will play as much as Walker, and Walker is not a scrub. We know you know everything about Chavis. You don't have to keep telling us.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:57 am to
Will the offense try to slow down their pace to increase TOP and give the defense more rest?

Regardless if they run or pass more (which I think was even), A&M does hurry up a lot, which can burn out a defense if you don't get 1st downs frequently.

Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:57 am to
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You are consistently one of the most football-dumb posters on this website. Were Sonny Cumbie, Graham Harrell or Killf Kingsbury, who all put up astonishing numbers in an air raid system quite a bit better than average? No. That's why they didn't play in the NFL. They were system QBs. They don't have to be great. That's THE WHOLE POINT. The air-raid takes the pressure OFF of the QB in a lot of ways and does NOT require as much talent as other systems. It is much, much simpler conceptually and in execution and thus requires less thinking, less memorization, and allows more focus on perfecting a few plays disguised under slightly different formations and alignments. Knight doesn't have to be very good. He just needs to execute within the system and the quality of athlete we have at WR and on defense will take care of the rest.



I'm the only one in this entire site who knows what Knight can and cannot do but I'm the one that's football dumb?

I know what Trevor Knight is. He's not an air-raid QB and he's incapable of "executing within the system". He's not a QB at all. I don't care how good your WRs are. When the ball is being thrown 5 yards behind them when they're wide open, or to the defenders on the other team, or when he misses the entire EZ on a hail mary pass 7 yards out of bounds, they (your WRs) won't make any difference. You will have a full blown QB controversy on your hands after the Auburn game as Knight puts your "defense" in bad spot after bad spot after bad spot. Go ahead and bookmark that.
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 10:59 am
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:57 am to
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Just an example for the Aggies so they understand better.


The only example that matters to us is that he took the nation's worst defense and made it top 50 in one year. Y'all want to haul out all of these silly micro-examples to prove to us that he sucks, but the proof is in the pudding: his career stats, which are incredible, and his success already at A&M. You want so badly for him to be a bad DC, but in fact he's one of the top 5 guys in the game and everyone but LSU fans knows that.
Posted by Aggie Fishfinder
Republic of Texas
Member since Feb 2012
4260 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 10:59 am to
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but in fact he's one of the top 5 guys in the game and everyone but LSU fans knows that.


They knew it, and wouldn't stop telling people this. That is, up until the point he decided to leave them...
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:03 am to
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Y'all want to haul out all of these silly micro-examples to prove to us that he sucks


I clearly said he's a good DC.

Stop trying to be a victim. Most LSU fans know he was solid for us. He wasn't a world beater, but he was very consistently good.

ETA:

Light years better than Steele, but I think Aranda is better than Chavis and definitely hungrier at this stage in their careers.



This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 11:04 am
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:04 am to
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He's not an air-raid QB and he's incapable of "executing within the system"


"Looking at the positive with Trevor, I looked at his passing chart and it breaks down each quadrant of the field and how he graded there. It's very clear to see that in the intermediate range is where he excelled. It's definitely a comfort level there. I think he posted a 11.8 grade on those routes. He's definitely at ease throwing in that range. Another thing is that he gets the ball out quickly. On average it took him 2.45 seconds to get the ball out from snap to pass attempt and that was one of the quicker rates in the nation." - Vinnie Ronca LINK

He's actually good on short-intermediate routes and have a very quick trigger. That's perfect for an air raid. Y'all misused him. That's on OU and y'all's OC from the time, not him. Similarly, I think Kyle Allen was misused by A&M's prior OC.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:04 am to
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That's because you're about as bright as a potato.


You just said that A&M runs an air raid offense, you really don't have the right to discuss football or question anyone's IQ
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:05 am to
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Y'all misused him



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:06 am to
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He's actually good on short-intermediate routes and have a very quick trigger. That's perfect for an air raid.


Your fellow TAMU fans just spent this entire thread saying (quite convincingly) that you aren't an air raid.

I don't think you are either.

Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:06 am to
Yeah....and all of their previous OCs have been air-raid Texas Tech disciples, genius. You're adorable.
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