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re: Question about Bruce pearl

Posted on 2/26/17 at 8:43 am to
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 8:43 am to
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Do you guys realize that you're arguing over which team was worse...and you're claiming your own team was?


Auburn fans accept we have a garbage history and that Bruce winning at Auburn is an accomplishment.

Dale Denton is trying to make himself feel better that he is stuck with an avg coach they won't fire and they don't have talent to win to be more than a first weekend NCAAT tournament team. The new talent can't be that good or else they'd follow Malik Monk out of Arkansas


He can try to trash Auburns talent, but they are FR with no upperclassmen for leadership. We also have higher rated talent coming in for 2017 + 2018. We don't have to wait for 2020 to get some magical class to at least have the talent to make a run
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 8:48 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 8:45 am to
Every. fricking. Time.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 8:48 am to
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they don't have talent to win to be more than a first weekend NCAAT tournament team



I mean, Arkansas has talent. Trying to say otherwise is pretty stupid. Anderson had the best JUCO haul last year in the nation. Signing the #1, 3, & 6th best JUCO players in the country. Couple them with the pre season SEC POY, one of the best 3 point shooters in the league, Anton Beard, Trey Thompson, Manny Watkins...and there is plenty of talent on roster.

Arkansas will return next season...Barford, Macon, Beard, Cook, Thompson, Bailey and will bring in two ESPN top 100 recruits to join the fold.

Anderson also has the #1 ranked class for 2018 lined up.
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 8:51 am
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 8:56 am to
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We also have higher rated talent coming in for 2017 + 2018. We don't have to wait for 2020 to get some magical class to at least have the talent to make a run


No you don't.

Arkansas has 2 ESPN top 100 players signed for 2017.
Arkansas has the #1 ranked class for 2018 according to ESPN and 247.

Arkansas produces blue chip talent. Mike seems to be getting them to campus now.

Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:01 am to
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Arkansas has 2 ESPN top 100 players signed for 2017.


.... So China Okeke and Davion Mitchell aren't ESPN top 100 players signed to Auburn?

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Arkansas has the #1 ranked class for 2018 according to ESPN and 247.


You think it will stay that way? Bless your soul child


To give you an idea of our future expectations vs yours, when is the last time you've been invited to Maui? I am already looking into booking hotels for 2018

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Arkansas produces blue chip talent. Mike seems to be getting them to campus now.


Glad to know he finally is starting to figure out how to recruit a state for a supposed "basketball school"

He's had what, a 6 year learning curve?

This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 9:04 am
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:04 am to
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So China Okeke and Davion Mitchell aren't ESPN top 100 players signed to Auburn?


Arkansas ESPN class ranking: 19
Auburn ESPN class ranking: 29

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You think it will stay that way? Bless your soul child


Anderson has the Arkansas Wings committed. Do some research on the AAU Arkansas Wings. Yes, Arkansas will remain one of the top classes in the nation for 2018.

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when is the last time you've been invited to Maui?


Just a couple years ago.

This is a stupid argument on your part.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:04 am to
His argument was Arkansas doesn't produce talent which isn't true.

Hannahs, Watkins, Beard, Thompson, and Macon all Arkansas high school talent on this team.

His next argument was all the new guys on auburns roster, over half of Arkansas's roster is with players in their first year at Arkansas.

The last straw he's grasping for is that Arkansas doesn't get the instate talent the staff wants, the only example of this would be a player whose brother was wanting the school to pay them for his brother to enroll and give him a job on the staff. The other two? One the staff didn't want, Cal didn't after getting him either, and a player they signed a higher rated player at the same position instead...
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:05 am to
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Glad to know he finally is starting to figure out how to recruit a state for a supposed "basketball school"


I mean, there have been only 2 guys leave the state that Arkansas offered in 6 years. Im not sure what your point is. Arkansas produces a lot of basketball talent, and has forever.

You're on the fringe of sounding stupid at this point. So stop.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:10 am to
My point is Dale and Ltarian are stupid as frick for getting this going on Bruce Pearl. Grasping at straws just like I may be

Arkansas is a better program than Auburn no doubt, but let's not pretend that the current state lives up to expectations. You don't see Auburn fans shitting on Arkansas down state


To act like the team Auburn is putting together with top talent isn't going to be dangerous is stupider than anything I've said in this thread
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 9:11 am
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:11 am to
I think he's trying to say that auburn is excited about their potential in the future but he doesn't realize with what is in place on campus and what is coming in the future the program has a late 80s vibe around it when may-day was about to arrive on the hill right now...
Posted by Wild Thang
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:15 am to
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what is in place on campus and what is coming in the future the program has a late 80s vibe around it when may-day was about to arrive on the hill right now...





Arky basketball is about to be back!!
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:17 am to
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Arky basketball is about to be back!!


They finally are recruiting the threshold for a "Basketball School"


They have only 3 top 60 kids committed in 17/18 according to ESPN

Not sure why they fee like the Richardson years are coming back. Auburn has 3 top 65 kids and we don't pretend we are going to have Richardson type years
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:21 am to
Because there is way more to it than recruiting rankings...
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:27 am to
Arkansas doesn't produce talent, ok loll. 30% of the starters from the Florida Kentucky game were from ArkAnsas. The city of little rock alone has a top 75 player in the 17 (garland) 18 (Henderson) and 19 class (hill) alone


And it is Arkansas hawks not wings. Ron Crawford did the wings in
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:32 am to
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30% of the starters from the Florida Kentucky game were from ArkAnsas.


I never said Arkansas didn't product talent, I said Anderson is letting some top talent make other programs great.

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Because there is way more to it than recruiting rankings...


Mike Anderson hasn't righted the ship thus far, but surely another few years will get you there


Especially now that the rule changes neuter his press

Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:43 am to
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And it is Arkansas hawks not wings. Ron Crawford did the wings in


Meh...anyone who knows anything about recruiting in Arkansas knows what I was referring to
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:46 am to
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I never said Arkansas didn't product talent, I said Anderson is letting some top talent make other programs great.


Yet he has a roster full of Arkansas guys that contribute to the program more than one season. He also has a host of Arkansas blue chips lined up in this class, the 18 class, and then the 19 class. All which are highly recruited.

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Mike Anderson hasn't righted the ship thus far, but surely another few years will get you there


His ship isn't sinking like Pearls is, thats for sure.

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Especially now that the rule changes neuter his press


Arkansas doesn't really "press" and you would know that if you watched any of the Arkansas games this season. Anderson's defense is simply trying to speed up the pace of play and make the opposition run without wanting to run.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:47 am to
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Arky basketball is about to be back!!


Certainly closer than LSU...thats for sure
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:49 am to
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My point is Dale and Ltarian are stupid as frick for getting this going on Bruce Pearl. Grasping at straws just like I may be


As long as you admit you are being just a ridiculous then I guess it is ok
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:55 am to
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Not sure why they fee like the Richardson years are coming back


Arkansas has won 22 or more games in 3 of the last 4 seasons
Arkansas has double digit SEC wins for the 4th time in 5 years

Those things have not happened since Richardson left.

I dont recall anyone saying that Arkansas is going to win the national title this year, but a Sweet 16 run is not out of the realm of possibilities.

Also, when you consider that Arkansas will return Barford, Macon, Thompson, Beard, Bailey, Cook, Thomas and add Gafford and Garland...then yea, Arkansas doesn't seem to be going anywhere for a while.

The difference in Auburn and Arkansas, is you are reliant on incoming high schoolers to get you to the NCAAt level. Arkansas isn't reliant on that. Which means, Auburn will go through more growing pains, take worse shots, play worse defense, get worn down faster than its opponents.

Arkansas wore Auburn down last night because Arkansas goes 10 deep on its bench and will get up to 50 or more points scoring from that bench. A program like Auburn cannot do that. Why? Because there is talent there, but not enough of it.
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