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re: Question about Bruce pearl

Posted on 2/25/17 at 10:35 pm to
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 10:35 pm to
I realize a winning record is a once in a decade occurance for auburn, but that isn't the only measure of the health of a program.

I guess your still pissed Mike turned you down all those years ago.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 10:46 pm to
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Better than Auburn was when Pearl took over. Not even close.


Like you would know.
Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 10:48 pm to
You guys were ready to fire him a couple weeks ago. Thank God we dodged that bullet and never even gave him an interview.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 10:50 pm to
True, auburn didn't require and interview before offering him their job which he promptly turned down.

Such sneaky wording to deny the fact you are only auburn, a place of rebuilding ones image or a stepping stone, not a destination job.
Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 10:57 pm to
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Like you would know.


I don't have to know a single thing about Arkansas to know it wasn't worse off than Auburn when Pearl took over. That's how bad it was. There was no worse P5 job at the time. Do you even Tony Barbee?
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 10:58 pm to
Did tony have a strong dependency for opioids that left the program with a roster of questionable people and a rpi in a delicate situation?
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:05 pm to
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interview before offering him their job which he promptly turned down.


When Auburn was put on probation, Anderson turned down an interview request. He never got the offer because of that.


You pointing out how big of a shite job Auburn is only contradicts your dumb AF argument about Bruce and AU vs Arkansas when the coaches took over


Arkansas could lose every game next year and still be in better shape than Auburn for a good coach

Bruce had only 1 Tony Barbee player make it to year 2 and he couldn't recruit w the show cause


You don't get much shittier in terms of a situation

This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 11:09 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:06 pm to
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a place of rebuilding ones image or a stepping stone, not a destination job.


Bobby Petrino?
Houston Nutt?
Danny Ford?
Ken Hatfield?
Lou Holtz?

Literally every football coach you've had since Broyles has used Arkansas as a stepping stone or to rebuild their image, except Bert who used Arkansas to run away from a Broyles-like AD (ironic, huh?) If Bert was good enough we all know he'd use Arkansas as a stepping stone, but he can't. Yall wish he would at this point though

Auburn coaches leave when we tell them to. Name the last Auburn coach in football or basketball to use us as a stepping stone. You can't, because they don't because you pulled that out of your arse. Pearl may have come here with an image to fix but he said himself he's staying here. Sounds like a destination to me.
Posted by rockiee
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:08 pm to
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Bobby Petrino?


quote:

Literally every football coach you've had since Broyles has used Arkansas as a stepping stone or to rebuild their image


Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:11 pm to
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you are only auburn, a place of rebuilding ones image or a stepping stone, not a destination job.


So you admit that Bruce took over a shittier situation with a program with less resources than Arkansas?


Bruce style is definitely less effective with the new rules, no debate there.

Winning at Auburn is a fricking unicorn. He deserves a shite ton of credit. No one has pulled that off

This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 11:12 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:14 pm to
Every name on that list was either fired or told to find a new job before publicly being fired.

That isn't a stepping stone.

Bruce had no problem turning Tennessee around, but it appears his ceiling at auburn is the nit bubble.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:15 pm to
Lobo won at auburn, but you thought you could and deserved better.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:17 pm to
Pel recruited 6 players in 2008 only one was on the roster in 2009.

We lost a schlly because of apr

Lost a top 10 player in his back yard


Drug addict who was so pitiful he once challenged A player to one on one, got beat then kicked said player off team (true story)

Then saddled with apr issues signed the most overrated recruiting class in human history on his way out that mike was stuck with
Posted by BowlJackson
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:17 pm to
Petrino was already widely regarded as a world class POS long before the motorcycle thing at Arkansas.

He literally used Arkansas both to repair his image (personal image and ad a coach after failing in ATL) and as a stepping stone to get back to college before he got canned in the NFL
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:17 pm to
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Bruce had no problem turning Tennessee around, but it appears his ceiling at auburn is the nit bubble.


Pretty absurd to say NIT is the ceiling for a NIT bound team who gets ~80% min + scoring from Freshmen
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:21 pm to
Auburn isn't going to the nit as of today.

Teams that play on the first day of the sec-t are not rewarded with a nit invite.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:22 pm to
Seriously auburn has a good team.that center is going to be a mid first rounder one day. U start four freshman u go take lumps. I think they firmly make the tourney next year and if everyone sticks around will be challenging for the title in 2 years
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:22 pm to
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He literally used Arkansas both to repair his image

Ya, after those great seasons at Arkansas everyone was jumping all over him.

I'll give you a pass tonight because you have a hard time handling your alcohol
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:23 pm to
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Pel recruited 6 players in 2008 only one was on the roster in 2009.


You think that's worse than Auburn? You fricking serious?

Auburn had only 1 Barbee player/recruit make it to year 2. That's from shittier teams than Pelphrey


Bruce also could compensate by recruiting due to the show cause both when hired and for for year 2
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:24 pm to
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Pel recruited 6 players in 2008 only one was on the roster in 2009


Okay? In year 2 Pearl had literally 1 player left over from Barbee, and he sucked.

Barbee left Auburn with literally 1 player that was D1 quality and he was a senior in Pearl's first year. Why do you think we are playing and starting so many freshmen this year? Because the roster was so bad we had to get a shite ton of JUCO and grad transfers to even field a team. We were literally playing with only 7 scholarship players and with Cinmeon Bowers getting time at PG for half of SEC play last year.

It may have been bad at Arkansas, but I promise it didn't come close to the situation at Auburn. Pearl has been frustrating on game days but the fact he's positioned this program to have a winning record in only year 3 is a miracle. First one since 08-09
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