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Pac12 south harder than SEC west?

Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:09 pm
Posted by knight_ryder
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:09 pm
Jim Mora and Steve Sarkisian said on SportsCenter earlier that the Pac12 south is harder than the SEC west.



ETA: I would put the SEC east over the Pac12 south.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 2:10 pm
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:13 pm to
Harder than the East.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:13 pm to
The Pac12 South is pretty stacked.....wouldn't put it ahead of the SEC West though.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 2:19 pm
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:17 pm to
Last season was close...but I'd still give the SEC West the crown.

This season remains to be seen obviously.

For reference

Arizona
Arizona St
UCLA
USC
Utah
Colorado

Colorado obviously drags them down. SEC West has more at the top...but depth wise, I'd say it is about even considering only colorado had less than 9 wins last year.
Posted by knight_ryder
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:24 pm to
Yeah but considering the amount of blue chip recruits the west has year in and year out I would say the west is ahead of the curve. Now that the CFP is here a 2 loss West team would have way more credibility over a Pac12 south team.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:25 pm to
It's close that's fo sho.
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:26 pm to
Well, what exactly did the SEC West accomplish last year besides winning the SEC?
Posted by knight_ryder
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:27 pm to
Tbird! How's the motherland treating you so far?
Posted by knight_ryder
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

Well, what exactly did the SEC West accomplish last year besides winning the SEC?


Last year was a shite show I admit. Of course Jim and Steve would be bias but would you really put the Pac12 south over the west?
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Arizona
Arizona St
UCLA
USC
Utah
Colorado


Arkansas could've beaten all of them last year.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Yeah but considering the amount of blue chip recruits the west has year in and year out I would say the west is ahead of the curve. Now that the CFP is here a 2 loss West team would have way more credibility over a Pac12 south team.


Sure is a good thing that recruiting rankings count in games....Missouri is example #1 that recruiting rankings don't mean anything.

I've admitted that the West was better at the top and bottom...but I'd give the middle to the PAC.

Teams with 9+ wins
SECW - 3/7
PACS- 5/6

SEC played 8 conference games, while PAC plays 9. Considering most people's non-con schedules...all things equal, the SEC should average one more win.
Posted by p_bubel
San Antonio
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Pac12 south harder than SEC west?


We have the chance to shut that argument down in the first week.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10805 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Arkansas could've beaten all of them last year.


Arkansas lost to Missouri lost to Indiana lost to Bowling Green lost to Ball State lost to UMass lost to Colorado <-last place in Pac12s.

Pac12s > SECw

/thread
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 2:39 pm
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:39 pm to
I would say its pretty close. Arizona, ASU, UCLA and USC are all solid teams. The difference is that we have 2 additional solid teams with good defenses.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:39 pm to
After a&m loses week 1 to ASU, there might be an argument made...
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Jim Mora and Steve Sarkisian

quote:

he Pac12 south is harder than the SEC west


Once either of them wins their conference, let's talk.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

After a&m loses week 1 to ASU, there might be an argument made...
Forgot they played. Damn there some good games this season. Frick, I can't wait.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:41 pm to
A&M will whip ASU and put that debate to rest. The Pac 12 South has some parity, and USC and UCLA are recruiting at a high level, but beyond that, it's not comparable. ASU, Arizona, Utah and Colorado would in the lower half of the SEC West at best. The talent and depth just isn't there.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:42 pm to
While I think they might have been better than a lot of other divisions last year, they were not remotely close to the West. USC, ASU, Utah and Zona were all average teams last year. A very young Arizona team won that division lest we forget. Then promptly got schooled by Boise State. Having said that, they were young teams and will all be better this year. But they are several recruiting cycles away from being able to make that claim make any sense. Were the best two wins Oregon and Notre Dame? They'll need more than that.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68437 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:47 pm to
The Mississippi schools would run roughshod over that division
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 2:48 pm
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