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re: Online Undergrad Degrees, Which Schools Are Offering These?

Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:03 am to
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:03 am to
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So you immediately jumped into assuming that I prefer applicants that did not finish online

Anyways, my field is small and I am heavily involved in research. What I've noticed over the past 3-4 years is that folks that complete graduate degrees online have less hands on experience in research and there are less folks I can call around to get a feel for qualities that I cannot measure in an interview.

That's all. If they're on campus they typically do more research. That usually puts me in contact with the faculty they worked with which gives me more information about the applicant. There are red flags for students on campus that don't get heavily involved in research in my field. I like to know these things


That's understandable. I'm on the flip side - I'm in IT, and the whole "get the degree on campus" comes across as a total waste for our fields. This goes doubly when one considers that some VERY well-paying, highly technical positions (like DBAs and Network Engineers) rarely have equivalents at large schools. Most large schools focus on programming, and if I want a programmer, great! If I want a Network Engineer, then I'm typically looking for a certification.

Having recently needed to find a new job, I've found the strange, "Have a degree and experience doing X" where X is something there isn't a degree in at a major university - but it does exist online, and not just at diploma mills.

Honestly, when my friends ask about going back to college, I recommend WGU (despite it getting bemoaned earlier).
* It's non-profit - a semester is just over $3,000.
* The IT programs, at least, PAY for you to take the certifications you're working for, and you pass/fail the course purely on your capability of acquiring the certification (unlike places like Phoenix, who "prep" you for the exam but that's it).
* They also carry master's programs, and personally that's what I am going to do - get my Master's in Cybersecurity and IT Assurance.
Posted by TheCosbySweater
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:04 am to
So I was partially right? Ha. I could have swore I heard US had great online programs. Nice to hear and I am actually impressed about a thread with serious answers and no mention of "death penalty."
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:15 am to
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South Carolina has been expanding the online college recently.

They offer business, "liberal arts", nursing, and elementary education I think.


... and Criminal Justice, Organizational Leadership and Human Services.

Plus quite a few individual classes more specific to other degrees including a few in Computer Science and Engineering.
Posted by bgator85
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:23 am to
UF started an online program, a few degrees are available 100% online. I think it was required by the state.

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Posted by TheRaid
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:35 am to
A CFA is only useful in certain realms of the financial industry. Nobody else cares about it. An MBA is universally recognizable and useful across nearly all industries.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:57 am to
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I'm in IT, and the whole "get the degree on campus" comes across as a total waste for our fields.


IT world is different, hell a lot of times certs>degree

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there isn't a degree in at a major university


Problem with a lot of the IT field or you can only obtain the "degree" as post grad(Masters or Doctorate Levels). The IT world is young and they would rather have a cert with actual experience rather than a degree. Guys dont want to waste their time while some teenage/young kid comes in ahead of them


Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 12:02 pm to
If Bama's doing it, you can bet Auburn will be sure to follow.
Posted by Filthy Dawg
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 12:28 pm to
That's such a lil bro move, but yes I guarantee you they will
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 12:33 pm to
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Problem with a lot of the IT field or you can only obtain the "degree" as post grad(Masters or Doctorate Levels). The IT world is young and they would rather have a cert with actual experience rather than a degree. Guys dont want to waste their time while some teenage/young kid comes in ahead of them


Problem is that HR, otoh, is still deeply rooted in the old system. Degrees are made of gold, crusted in diamonds and blessed by the Almighty Himself.

Not relevant, however? Ability.

It's why, as an IT manager, I would tell the HR department to not touch the resumes and send them to me unfiltered. True, I got some unusual ones (a person applying to be an IT Analyst who had no education or experience in IT, but WAS a biscuit baker at the local Hardee's, so... you know...)
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 1:03 pm to
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This will be the future of NCAA athletics. No actual classroom time required. Have academic advisors do nearly all your online work for you.
And then take your exams in a required proctored setting and fail them because some else did your online work and discussions?

You can have someone do your online work and participate in discussions easily. But when you have to physically show up at a location to take the exam in person under a proctor you will fail miserably if you don't know the material.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 1:06 pm to
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This will be the future of NCAA athletics. No actual classroom time required. Have academic advisors do nearly all your online work for you.


The biggest misunderstanding regarding online classes.

It is a hundred times easier to cheat in a classroom than with a proctored exam, with a person watching you - and JUST you - through your webcam and monitoring everything visible on your PC. They will literally freeze your test and check on you if your hands drop from sight.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 1:07 pm to
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True online programs are designed for adults returning to college, but also have full time jobs. They aren't really meant (yet, at least) for students who are fresh out of high school.


We have high school kids receiving college credits through online courses at University of Louisville and Bellarmine. It's meant for a wide range of students.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 1:12 pm to
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And you'd be a fool to hold that against someone. Working, raising kids, paying bills AND getting a degree online is much more difficult than spending 4 years on campus just going to class 12-15 hours a week and partying.


Absolutely. I've gone back for another degree/certification myself and it's tough with three classes and full-time work. I can't imagine with kids on top of it and some of my classmates do it.

Also, a lot of brick and mortar's are offering online degrees. Eastern Kentucky has one of the better Psych degrees in the state, your diploma and transcript doesn't differentiate whether it was online or not (this isn't University of Phoenix), and you still have proctored tests as well as clinical hours to serve.
Posted by LovetheLord
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 1:31 pm to
It would be awesome if it kept all the pastey skinned overweight Midwestern and Yankee girls off campus. I'm starting to hate what Dr. Whitt has done.
Posted by mcain31
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 2:51 pm to
MSU offers a Geoscience undergrad degree online. A lot of military weather forecasters use the program to further their careers
Posted by p0845330
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 3:20 pm to
Most accredited brick & mortar colleges and universities offer online undergrad degrees today, as well as quite a few online graduate degrees.

The diploma is exactly the same as one you'd earn sitting in a classroom to get the same material. Same content, same standards, same exams. "Online" is mentioned nowhere on the degree.

Universities that don't offer them are rare.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 3:23 pm to
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Most accredited brick & mortar colleges and universities offer online undergrad degrees today, as well as quite a few online graduate degrees.


Grad, yes. Undergrad, no


Posted by LAHog124
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 3:26 pm to
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In actuality, I'd rather have a working adult who earned a degree online in her off hours than someone who spent four years at a glorified summer camp. An online degree from a legit school while that person is putting food in on the table shows ambition and work ethic.


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Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 3:42 pm to
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Are there any schools currently offering these besides Bama?


LSU has had them for a while.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 3:44 pm to
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LSU has had them for a while.


LSU has no undergrad

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Online Degrees from LSU

Want to know more? Click on the degree you're interested in.

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