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Offensive Line Discussion and Stats

Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:10 pm
Who is the best offensive line in the league? The stats don't really give a clear picture. Are offensive lines less talented in the SEC this year or are defensive lines that much better than average?

OPPORTUNITY RATE
10. Kentucky
16. Texas A&M
17. Alabama
18. Georgia
22. Mississippi State
34. Tennessee
42. LSU
70. Auburn
72. Florida
87. Missouri
88. South Carolina
92. Arkansas
100. Ole Miss
118. Vanderbilt


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This is the percentage of carries in which the offensive line "does its job" and produces at least five yards of rushing for the runner. (Generally speaking, the first five yards are considered the line's responsibility, the next five are split evenly between the runner and the line, and anything over 10 yards is all on the runner.)




POWER SUCCESS RATE
5. Missouri
24. Kentucky
30. Alabama
35. Florida
77. Tennessee
79. Mississippi State
82. Auburn
91. South Carolina
99. Texas A&M
101. Georgia
101. Ole Miss
115. Vanderbilt
122. Arkansas
124. LSU

quote:

As used in Football Outsiders' pro line stats, this is the percentage of runs on third or fourth down, two yards or less to go, that achieved a first down or touchdown. Also includes runs on first-and-goal or second-and-goal from the two-yard line or closer.



PASSING DOWNS SACK RATE
1. Missouri
17. Texas A&M
40. Tennessee
47. Ole Miss
53. Florida
57. Alabama
57. Arkansas
77. Mississippi State
80. Georgia
84. LSU
86. South Carolina
89. Vanderbilt
110. Auburn
125. Kentucky

quote:


Passing Downs

Second-and-8 or more, third-and-5 or more, or fourth-and-5 or more. These are downs in which passing is easily the most likely option for gaining the necessary yardage, and defenses hold the upper hand. Offenses typically throw about two-thirds of the time on passing downs.




Interesting stats, what do they mean? Kentucky is a surprisingly good run blocking team and a porous pass block team. Missouri the opposite. Texas A&M appears to be the most balanced all around.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Aggie Fishfinder
Republic of Texas
Member since Feb 2012
4260 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Texas A&M appears to be the most balanced all around.


They have been good so far. That was my biggest worry going into the season.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50200 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:14 pm to
And A&M has done it vs UCLA, Auburn, and Arkansas. Not a who's who of DL, but not too shabby either.
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14410 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:19 pm to
Vols a lot higher than I thought
Posted by Butch stones
RockyTop
Member since Jun 2016
2889 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:21 pm to
Thanks F1orida for being a stat padding game for our OL
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5548 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:34 pm to
I truly believe that 3 of GA's offensive line would not start for Ga Southern.

I'm not kidding.

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79974 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

99. Texas A&M


This I can believe based on

quote:

As used in Football Outsiders' pro line stats, this is the percentage of runs on third or fourth down, two yards or less to go, that achieved a first down or touchdown. Also includes runs on first-and-goal or second-and-goal from the two-yard line or closer.


Breaking it down further, however, how do you count pass plays?

vs. UCLA, 4/8 (50%)

3rd and 1 - Knight 3 run FIRST DOWN
3rd and 1 - Ford 5 run FIRST DOWN
3rd and 1 - Ford 0 run
3rd and 1 - Williams 3 run FIRST DOWN
1st and Goal (2) - Williams 1 run
2nd and Goal (1) - Williams 0 run
3rd and Goal (1) - Knight 0 run
4th and Goal (1) - Knight TOUCHDOWN

vs. Prairie View - 4/6 67% (5/6 if you count the TD pass)

2nd and Goal (2) - Pass, loss of 2
2nd and 2 - Williams 2 run FIRST DOWN
2nd and 2 - TOUCHDOWN PASS (does this not count?)
3rd and 1 - Williams 3 run FIRST DOWN
2nd and 1 - Williams 4 run FIRST DOWN
4th and 1 - Knight 3 run FIRST DOWN

at Auburn - 2/7 (28.6%)

2nd and 2 - Ford 1 run, fumble + recovery
3rd and 1 - Incomplete pass
3rd and 1 - Knight 1 run FIRST DOWN
2nd and 1 - Penalty FIRST DOWN
1st and Goal (2) - Williams 0 run
2nd and Goal (2) - Ford 0 run
3rd and Goal (2) - FALSE START

vs. Arkansas - 4/6 (66.7%)

3rd and 2 - Ford 2 run FIRST DOWN
3rd and 1 - Knight 42 run TOUCHDOWN
2nd and 3 - Williams 15 run FIRST DOWN
1st and Goal (2) - Fumble turnover
2nd and 2 - Incomplete pass
3rd and 2 - Williams 3 run FIRST DOWN

15/27 = 55.6%, although the two goal line stalls, one of which resulted in a touchdown, the other a field goal, skew those numbers. Take those 1/7 stats away and you get 14/20, which looks better at 70%.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:02 pm to
Our line is lacking in experience but they're getting it the hard way. We've played three very damn athletic front sevens so far, including the best there is. I feel like our stats will improve a lot as the year progresses.
Posted by Robert Duval
Member since Jul 2015
421 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:16 pm to
You gotta take competition into account. Auburn for instance hasn't had great OL production...but it was against Clemson, LSU and a revamped, nasty TAMU D.

Auburn has enough talent to be very productive...although not quite as much talent as the last few years...our problems have been the level of competition, and blocking schemes that border on bizarre. Pulling RG to come all the way across to block Myles Garrett. "It's ok...you'll be faster than him next time. Let's do it again...dang it. Well, let's give it one more go"...and not giving Pettway a lead blocker running up the middle from the 1. Just a few examples. I suspect we'll climb up these rankings with some lesser opponents like Arkansas.
Posted by Sarcastro
Member since May 2012
1370 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:18 pm to
Mizzou is #1 nationally in sacks given up (one in four games) and TFL given up (seven in four games). We have a lot of young OL that need to get stronger, but they're real good.
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

You gotta take competition into account


These stats are opponent adjusted, so competition has already been factored out
Posted by Robert Duval
Member since Jul 2015
421 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

These stats are opponent adjusted, so competition has already been factored out
for pissing on my consolation prize!
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
4365 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:34 pm to
4 new starters including a true fish.


Jim fricking Turner
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
5471 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:38 pm to
That was really because we got Chance Hall back and Coleman Thomas sat.
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