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Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:48 pm
Based on in-state recruiting alone, the following programs have no excuse for being average:

UF
FSU
Miami
UGA
LSU
Texas
A&M
USC

All of those programs have suffered average to below average years recently, the only reason I can think of is coaching or QBs.
Posted by Jockamo
The Boot
Member since Nov 2011
1235 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:49 pm to
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coaching


Check

quote:

QBs


Check
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:50 pm to
So what's ur excuse?
Posted by linus
Miss-Lou
Member since Feb 2017
36 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:52 pm to
Bruh, FSU won a natty like 3 years ago or something. Damn.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:55 pm to
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Bruh, FSU won a natty like 3 years ago or something. Damn.


I'm talking more long term. FSU has been the most consistent, but they even struggle during Bowden's last years.
This post was edited on 6/2/17 at 12:55 pm
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21579 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

UF
Miami
UGA
LSU
USC

All of these programs have had a coaching change in the last 3 years, yet all have posted better records than Auburn.

I guess in-state recruiting does actually make a difference.
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Bruh, FSU won a natty like 3 years ago or something. Damn.



I can't even remember who they played in that game...
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:57 pm to
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All of these programs have had a coaching change in the last 3 years, yet all have posted better records than Auburn. I guess in-state recruiting does actually make a difference.


No shite dumbass, that is the point of the post. But all those programs have struggled at times even with the big advantage of in-state recruiting.
Posted by Uncle Gunnysack
Member since Apr 2016
5541 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 1:01 pm to
Florida, texas, and cali have a hell of alot more in state competition than everyone else too
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Based on in-state recruiting alone, the following programs have no excuse for being average:

UF
FSU
Miami
UGA
LSU
Texas
A&M
USC



Yes our in-state talent is off the charts as well as the state of Florida's, but you overlook how even with all this talent the programs listed can't obtain every single prospect they need in key positions. The poaching of our in-state talent by other top tier football programs leads to us missing on several players we need.

While we do have a natural advantage over out of state teams the sheer volume of talent alone in our states means we can't always keep everyone at home. Sometimes you swing and miss, while other times you can build dream classes. Football is cyclical so the recent trends you're noting are just another point in the cycle.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55187 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 1:05 pm to
LSU has fired their best coach ever and hired an ogre, they have a great excuse
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123564 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 1:07 pm to
Still going with that narrative I see
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 1:07 pm to
But you can only sign 25. FL, TX and CA produces 150 great to elite prospects each year alone, and GA and LA produce more than their share.
This post was edited on 6/2/17 at 1:10 pm
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 1:08 pm to
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LSU has fired their best coach ever and hired an ogre, they have a great excuse


yet his mediocre at best offense hung 54 on A&M.

How pathetic is Texas A&M football?
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10307 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 1:10 pm to
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LSU has fired their best coach ever and hired an ogre, they have a great excuse


God help us when the day comes where we have to make an excuse why we lost to Texas A&M.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
17995 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 1:16 pm to
Yea.....coaching and QB play tends to make a difference....
Who Da FCK Didn't Know That?
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10307 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 1:18 pm to
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The poaching of our in-state talent by other top tier football programs leads to us missing on several players we need.


Matthew Stafford, Aaron Murray, AJ Green, Tood Gurley, Sony Michel, Jacob Eason.....The best players UGA has produced the past decade were poached from other states.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Yea.....coaching and QB play tends to make a difference.... Who Da FCK Didn't Know That?


I would go with LSU, since they were lacking both.
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 1:25 pm to
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Matthew Stafford, Aaron Murray, AJ Green, Tood Gurley, Sony Michel, Jacob Eason.....The best players UGA has produced the past decade were poached from other states.



And Trevor Lawrence, Deshaun Watson, and (insert name of highly rated OL/DL, DB, WR, LB, or RB) are all players who end up going to other schools. Yes UGA can poach a quarterback and some running backs from other states, but the loss of several big names from our state to other programs hurts us in the long run as we look to build a complete team.
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 1:29 pm to
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But you can only sign 25. FL, TX and CA produces 150 great to elite prospects each year alone, and GA and LA produce more than their share.



I feel this helps my point. UGA is limited in the amount of in-state talent it can sign, while also including out of state targets we want as well. We can mess up our evaluations of players and go after the wrong player (ex. Hard charging for Brice Ramsey over Deshaun Watson) or just lose to another top tier program in a head to head recruiting battle. Yes we sit on a plethora of talent, but we are limited in how many we can sign, errors in evaluations, and the draw of other top tier programs.
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