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Nick Saban's stumbling non-answer as to what he'd have done in Pinkel's shoes
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:01 am
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:01 am
From a TimesDaily news article:
Head coach Nick Saban, while admitting he wasn’t completely up on the particulars of the situation, said he shared in Pinkel’s support for his players, adding he’d listen to any such concerns or issues they might bring to him if there were similar circumstances at Alabama.
“I will say this: We always respect our players, and when they feel passionate about something, we’re always going to listen,” Saban said Monday. “But one thing I can say in general — as a program, as a person, as an organization — we always believe in equal rights for all groups. And we would continue to promote and support that with any group on the team.”
Translation: I have no idea WTF I'd be supposed to do in that scenario I'm just a football coach.
Which is pretty much the subtext of all of Pinkel's comments on the matter have been so far that people are venting at him at. He was between a rock and a hard place and even in that stumbling quasi-PC answer to a hypothetical you can tell that Saban would have felt between a rock and a hard place too.
Head coach Nick Saban, while admitting he wasn’t completely up on the particulars of the situation, said he shared in Pinkel’s support for his players, adding he’d listen to any such concerns or issues they might bring to him if there were similar circumstances at Alabama.
“I will say this: We always respect our players, and when they feel passionate about something, we’re always going to listen,” Saban said Monday. “But one thing I can say in general — as a program, as a person, as an organization — we always believe in equal rights for all groups. And we would continue to promote and support that with any group on the team.”
Translation: I have no idea WTF I'd be supposed to do in that scenario I'm just a football coach.
Which is pretty much the subtext of all of Pinkel's comments on the matter have been so far that people are venting at him at. He was between a rock and a hard place and even in that stumbling quasi-PC answer to a hypothetical you can tell that Saban would have felt between a rock and a hard place too.
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:02 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Sounds like a pretty good answer to me.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:02 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Please don't try to involve Bama in your shite-show. 
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:03 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Feel like that is about as good an answer as you can give without tilting one way or another. Not sure what was stumbling about it.
But yea, I agree, tough spot for Pinkel.
But yea, I agree, tough spot for Pinkel.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 11:04 am
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:03 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
that was a good answer.
I mean, whats he going to say?
"Anyone skipping practice to 'boycott' will have their 'process' expedited"
I mean, whats he going to say?
"Anyone skipping practice to 'boycott' will have their 'process' expedited"
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:05 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Head coach Nick Saban, while admitting he wasn’t completely up on the particulars of the situation, said he shared in Pinkel’s support for his players, adding he’d listen to any such concerns or issues they might bring to him if there were similar circumstances at Alabama.
“I will say this: We always respect our players, and when they feel passionate about something, we’re always going to listen,” Saban said Monday. “But one thing I can say in general — as a program, as a person, as an organization — we always believe in equal rights for all groups. And we would continue to promote and support that with any group on the team.”
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Nick Saban's stumbling non-answer
His answer was pretty much perfect in that situation. Nothing stumbling about it. He hasn't been in that situation so he's not going to comment on specifics and he gave a shout out to equal rights to boot. Good answer.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:05 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Are people upset with Pinkel? I feel bad for him, you know he thinks it's total crap but if he ever wants to coach that team again, or any team, he really had no choice.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:08 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Looks like he nailed it with that response. What about that is "stumbling"?
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:08 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Why does anyone care what Pinkel did? It's the only part of Clay Travis's rants I've disagreed with. Pinkel's job is to run a program, not be an active member of this little Social Justice Warrior charade. Part of running a program is getting your kids to buy in, and be a place young black kids want to play. Those two factors are the some of the biggest in determining wins and losses and thus Pinkel's job. Did anyone watch Pinkel's press conference? Who cares what he said? All I care about is if he continues to beat Arkansas.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:10 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
OP with the fail
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:11 am to Robert Goulet
Honestly, I'm not sure you can answer this question without p'ing somebody off. Pretty much everyone has handled this as best they could in the PC world we live in. This isn't Nick's problem and the ONLY reason he answered it was Pinkel was his room mate and friend at Kent State. Otherwise, he would have said I'm not gonna go there.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:12 am to TeLeFaWx
Leave it to the OP to try to bash Saban's answer. Saban's answer was perfect.
Pinkel, on the other hand, came off like a complete fool, and kudos to the interviewer for not backing down. Pinkel was about as prepared for that interview as he was for Vandy.
Pinkel, on the other hand, came off like a complete fool, and kudos to the interviewer for not backing down. Pinkel was about as prepared for that interview as he was for Vandy.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:12 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Where did he stumble? Don't drag him into your mess.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:12 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
And?
He gave the correct answer. What did you expect him to say?
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:14 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Saban didn't stumble with his response, not one bit. He addressed the issue and answered in a direct way. He didn't hesitate in his response, and gave a shout out to equal rights and said he would most certainly listen to any concerns or issues his players brought him.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:15 am to SummerOfGeorge
We've had our shot at being the most racist university in the country.
Mizzou's turn.
Mizzou's turn.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:15 am to Roses of Crimson
This shite is not Saban's problem just yet, but this crap will spread like wild fire. Edwards, the former Black Panther Olympian infamous for his Black Power salute on the victory stand said the other day on ESPN that he's already heard from several other student activists at universities with "big football programs" on how to get this started on their campuses.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:22 am to Robert Goulet
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Sounds like a pretty good answer to me.
it is a good answer,, saying he would have to get the facts to know what to do is exactly right, and it's what Pinkel SHOULD HAVE DONE. But he didn't he just accepted the fake phony narrative of this attention hunger striking whore and let the team run the show.
He also pushed the fake narrative that the entire team was 100% behind it... (is that why a number of players showed up for practice as usual only to be told it was canceled?)
Having to actually THINK is not something Pinkel is really prepared for or equipped to do.
Clay Travis is also right, people calling Pinkel "courageous" for supporting his players have it 180 degrees backwards, the courageous thing to do would be stay the course until you have facts to know what to do and not just give in because a handful of players want to go on a football strike.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 11:25 am
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:23 am to Keltic Tiger
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This shite is not Saban's problem just yet, but this crap will spread like wild fire. Edwards, the former Black Panther Olympian infamous for his Black Power salute on the victory stand said the other day on ESPN that he's already heard from several other student activists at universities with "big football programs" on how to get this started on their campuses.
Yeah, well, we'll just see about that. There are few schools in this conference that would elect a moron like that as their SGA president, and few states in the SEC that would even elect someone like Claire McCaskill as dogcatcher. There are reasons why stuff like this happens at a place like Mizzou.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 11:24 am
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:23 am to Keltic Tiger
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This shite is not Saban's problem just yet, but this crap will spread like wild fire. Edwards, the former Black Panther Olympian infamous for his Black Power salute on the victory stand said the other day on ESPN that he's already heard from several other student activists at universities with "big football programs" on how to get this started on their campuses.
What exactly are they trying to "get started on the campuses?"
Do black activists plan to boycott the schools and hunger strike? In an effort to force the univeristy to hire more black faculty/staff, and get the schools to impliment mandatory racial tolerance education for their students? Are they going to try to get their school presidents fired?
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