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re: New LSU basketball transfer Kavell Bigby-Williams under investigation for sexual assault

Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:20 pm to
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Over an awful reserve player?



He was far from awful, he was expected to start this upcoming season. He played behind 3 elite bigs (Chris Boucher, Dillion Brooks & Jordan Bell) last season at Oregon and his PER was about a 15.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 3:22 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36505 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:20 pm to
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All we know for sure is that Kavell raped a helpless girl in September, and that he was under investigation when LSU accepted his commitment and LSU for sure knee about the rape.


K.

You've just shown that anything you post can be disregarded on general principle.

You're a shite poster.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:20 pm to
Well as you can see "generally" when a player commits to LSU it is released on the LSU Sports Website. Please show me where you see that release.

lsusports.net
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96003 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:22 pm to
I'm not sure what to make of this to be honest. He may be perfectly innocent. The Emerald article really didn't give any details at all because everything is either redacted or closed to the public eye.

It's certainly not great timing but people are innocent in this country until proven guilty.

If it turns out he's guilty and he flat out raped a girl then i would be all for LSU removing him from the team. Until then I'm not sure what you can do.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98915 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:22 pm to
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No, it wont. Some random people on the internet like usual will make a deal of out it for a day or two, then everyone will forget about it days later.


It all depends.

If there's nothing to it like suggested and he keeps his nose clean at LSU then it all works out.

If you knowingly take a guy who is investigated for sexual assault and he ends up assaulting someone on LSU's campus it'll absolutely bite you in the arse. That's exactly what blew open the issues at Baylor (and no I'm comparing LSU to Baylor, so save that faux outrage).

It's all about risk/reward.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:23 pm to
Do you just read headlines or actually read into what you are posting about?
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:23 pm to
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Well as you can see "generally" when a player commits to LSU it is released on the LSU Sports Website. Please show me where you see that release.


I don't see any commitments listed there at all. Is that the official LSU athletics website? I don't believe schools are allowed to specifically mention commits by name, only signees.

Do you understand the difference between a commit and a signee?
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:25 pm to
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If you knowingly take a guy who is investigated for sexual assault and he ends up assaulting someone on LSU's campus it'll absolutely bite you in the arse. That's exactly what blew open the issues at Baylor (and no I'm comparing LSU to Baylor, so save that faux outrage).



That's certainly quite the hypothetical, but we're talking about just the facts right now, which nothing, as of right now, is anything definitively bad.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:25 pm to
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If it turns out he's guilty and he flat out raped a girl then i would be all for LSU removing him from the team


That's the thing he isn't on the team. If it turns out he is guilty I obviously don't expect him to be on the team.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:26 pm to
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I don't see any commitments listed there at all. Is that the official LSU athletics website? I don't believe schools are allowed to specifically mention commits by name, only signees.

Do you understand the difference between a commit and a signee?


Just so we're clear here, you're melting about a player that MIGHT be verbally committed to LSU because of a crime he hasn't been charged with on yet.

Just to get that out there

This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:28 pm to
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I don't see any commitments listed there at all. Is that the official LSU athletics website?


the second fricking post is a commitment.

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Do you understand the difference between a commit and a signee?


You do realize basketball players that are able to join the team in the fall can sign right away? So right now a commitment and signee are the same thing.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96003 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:28 pm to
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If it turns out he's guilty and he flat out raped a girl then i would be all for LSU removing him from the team


That's the thing he isn't on the team. If it turns out he is guilty I obviously don't expect him to be on the team.



He's going to be on the team and the investigation is ongoing. The point was if it comes out in 6 months (when he is on the team) that he is in fact guilty then lsu would certainly be wise to kick him off the team at that point.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:32 pm to
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He's going to be on the team and the investigation is ongoing


I'm not so sure that will happen. Why hasn't LSU released a statement that he has committed and signed. All of the other recruits Will Wade has signed got a release from LSU almost immediately stating that the recruit signed to join the team.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:33 pm to
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Just so we're clear here, you're melting about a player that MIGHT be verbally committed to LSU because of a crime he hasn't been charged with on yet.


Two days ago LSU fans were calling Will Wade the Nick Saban of basketball because this kid commited and now y'all are arguing whether or not his commitment is even real.


Y'all turn your back on people on a dime. Most disloyal fanbadr ever?
Posted by ipodking
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Member since Jun 2008
56271 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:37 pm to
He is not welcome at my LSU
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98915 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:38 pm to
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That's certainly quite the hypothetical


Is it? We've routinely seen players in football and basketball that have had off-the-field/court issues at one school and continue to have issues when they transfer. Oregon actually had a transfer that was accused of sexual assault at his previous school and then ended up getting the boot over sexual assault accusations at Oregon (Brandon Austin).

I also wouldn't trust Oregon playing him either. In 2014, when they had three players that were charged with assaulting an intoxicated undergrad it broke right before the NCAA Tournament and they still played them. They were later kicked off the team and banned from campus for up to 10 years.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:39 pm to
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Two days ago LSU fans were calling Will Wade the Nick Saban of basketball because this kid commited and now y'all are arguing whether or not his commitment is even real.



Verbal commitments mean nothing, are you new to recruiting?

Even if he signs, comes here, and something comes out, he's just going to get kicked off without ever having played, again, nothing off our back. He may never even enroll here.

He can't even enroll here for another few months.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 3:41 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:42 pm to
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the second fricking post is a commitment


No... it's not.

Do you know how to read? The headline is literally:

quote:

LSU Basketball Signs 4-Star PG Tremont Waters


SIGNS, you moron. Not "accepts commitment from."


quote:

So right now a commitment and signee are the same thing


No, they're actually are not.


And athletes transferring from one four-year college to another don't even sign Letters of Intent anyway. It's a lengthier process, thus transfers announce their commitment before they're officially enrolled.




It's honestly pathetic how hard you are trying to distance LSU from this kid already. LSU took a commitment from a kid under criminal investigation. For whatever reason Wade and LSU thought the risk was worth it. These are facts and you cannot change them. It'll be a lot easier if you just accept it instead of continuing to make a fool of yourself.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:43 pm to
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That's certainly quite the hypothetical, but we're talking about just the facts right now, which nothing, as of right now, is anything definitively bad.


On the other page you laid out your hypothetical, even if it is likely.

I don't even disagree about it being unlikely Oregon knew nothing about it and the newspaper released something about it the day after he announced his transfer. But don't pretend like you are just giving us the facts.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 3:49 pm
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 3:43 pm to
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Two days ago LSU fans were calling Will Wade the Nick Saban of basketball because this kid commited and now y'all are arguing whether or not his commitment is even real. Y'all turn your back on people on a dime. Most disloyal fanbadr ever?


Wow. One poster = the LSU fanbase

So your idiocy and stupidity represents the entire Auburn fanbase?
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