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re: NCAA is a sad institution for burning Rebs, but letting Tar Heels slide

Posted on 2/26/17 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6227 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 7:20 pm to
You just proved what we've been arguing. This year it's ole miss, next year it could be your team. Not saying we shouldn't be punished, just saying consistency is missing from the NCAA.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139830 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 7:23 pm to
You guys don't even get why UNC was "let off"

They self imposed penalties
The NCAA can't tell a school what they have to offer--which is why it's not a big deal. It's tutors writing papers deal investigation now. Why is that? Because UNC proved the classes were offered to everyone.
They fired the HC and the assistant involved
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42344 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 7:31 pm to
Yep, OM fans are crying for consistency from the NCAA but the only comparable situation to theirs was the old pony express days, except SMU actually got a decent ROI in championships.
Posted by Col Reb is my mascot
Member since Feb 2012
4165 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 7:39 pm to
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It's clear that as long as your cheating involves only massive academic fraud that you're fine in terms of the NCAA. UNC won at least 1 national championship in basketball with multiple players who may have been ineligible and it is absolutely criminal


Don't forget that rape is perfectly ok in the eyes of the NCAA too
Posted by Col Reb is my mascot
Member since Feb 2012
4165 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 7:40 pm to
quote:


They self imposed penalties
The NCAA can't tell a school what they have to offer--which is why it's not a big deal. It's tutors writing papers deal investigation now. Why is that? Because UNC proved the classes were offered to everyone.
They fired the HC and the assistant involved


Extra benefits. 75% of students in those classes were student athletes. Particularly those who needed an A to remain eligible
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42344 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 7:42 pm to
What are you talking about?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42344 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 7:44 pm to
25% was non student athletes who need the class for an A for whatever reason.
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 7:44 pm
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 7:50 pm to
ACC and Big Ten are Teflon. OSU got away with murder, multiple times. NCAA is a big joke, always was.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 7:51 pm to
Well, you are just too stupid to post. Carry on though, there is entertainment value to your ignorance.
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 8:00 pm to
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Academic scandals, rape, sexual assault are all okay with the NCAA. But you better not couch surf at a coaches house or they



Or pay players 10-15 grand a piece. Cuz if you think only one player was paid, well you're as dumb as an Ole Miss Rebel.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 8:12 pm to
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You guys don't even get why UNC was "let off"


For the third time, link to UNC case being closed.

The date for them to respond to their most recent NOA - the third in this saga - hasn't even passed yet.

People are doing just what OM fans did last year and assuming no news means no punishment and that is an assumption that cannot be made.
Posted by GoRebsGo!
Member since Nov 2012
185 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 8:14 pm to
Don't forget louisville. A freaking book published about extra benefits, coach hiring strippers, etc. And pretty much one year postseason ban and a reduction in scholarships.
Posted by GoRebsGo!
Member since Nov 2012
185 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 8:15 pm to
Maybe if we fired Freeze and hired Croom, the ncaa would take it easy on us.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42344 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 8:17 pm to
Was that coach fired when the allegations were revealed or did Louisville claim the inevestigation alone damaged recruiting enough to be a proper punishment and keep the staff memeber in place?
Posted by AustinDawg
Austin, Tx
Member since Aug 2015
1436 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 8:24 pm to


UNC should be hammered far harder than the Ole Miss. UNC is part of sweeping academic fraud.

Maybe I am a dick, but when I look to hiring someone, and they have NC as their school, I ask if their degree is legit -- then they have to really prove to me they didn't just get a free grade.

Basically, don't trust anyone with UNC degree as they have had 15+ years of academic fraud.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 10:59 pm to
The NCAA is not a legal institution, not a governing body. They are a private entity providing marketing and legal cover for the P5 conferences. They have no authority other than what they are given by the conferences and can be cut loose at any time.

The NCAA cares about what the conferences tell them to care about and that is anything involving money. They don't concern themselves about academic fraud, or sexual assault, etc. cause the conferences are not concerned about it. If MS brought in the kind of bucks that bama or UNC brought in and could keep things quiet so nobody got a public black eye they wouldn't be getting hammered either.

It's all about the money fellas. Capitalism. Merica goddammit
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:16 am to
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Maybe I am a dick, but when I look to hiring someone, and they have NC as their school, I ask if their degree is legit -- then they have to really prove to me they didn't just get a free grade.

Basically, don't trust anyone with UNC degree as they have had 15+ years of academic fraud.



Oh hush. You're extrapolating to an utterly inane degree, and if you tried to do that in a serious HR situation, you'd sound like an idiot. UNC overall is very highly regarded for a good reason, and part of that good reason is that most people aren't silly enough to think an aberrant situation typifies the entire educational outlay.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 12:17 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:29 am to
Your infractions only matter if you start beating Alabama.

Section 178.76.c of the rule book
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79876 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:01 am to
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except SMU actually got a decent ROI in championships.


Over that span

National Titles: 0
Conference Titles: 1981, 1982, 1984 (shared)
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:46 am to
Miz cou is correct. They are completely corrupt and more like the mafia than a regulator. They really don't give a flying frick about football as almost all their revenue 200 million or so comes from basketball as the NCAA gets a huge portion of the march madness money. A two year ban on UNC may cost them money, ole miss not so much.

They took a lot of shite from backing off auburn and miami botched investigation and ole miss picked a bad time to fight.

U have no due process with them, look for my prior post. They don't have any real standards for review. Their excuse is that since they have subpoena power they only have to prove u probably did it(kinda) which would be proponderance of evidence but they really don't even follow that.

They can be very petty and pick their fights carefully. They want Freezes head and ole miss will give it to them. If they want Bjork they will get that too.
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