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re: NCAA has nothing, on fishing expedition
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:15 pm to TampaReb
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:15 pm to TampaReb
quote:I don't know about the grade fixing accusation he just made. But if folks are sketchy enough to fix ACT scores just to get them IN school would they fix grades to keep them academically eligible to play ball?
Why couldn't Freeze still talk to Jones there is nothing wrong there.
More accusation you have no proof of.
No grade fixing has been reported. ACT fraud but no grade fixing. There is not one thing in the NOA of us illegally fixing grades. Saunders gave around $1,700 to help kids with tutors, tuition and transportation. But if you want to give specifics???
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:17 pm to RT1941
Ole miss fired the guy that did the ACT fraud in 2010.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:17 pm to RT1941
You realize that people used the Waynesboro ACT location to get into most schools in the West. Sanders just happened to be employed at OM so it was easy to prove.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:17 pm to narddogg81
why do people think the ncaa is the legal system?
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Some homer used the term " conflict of interest" earlier. I'm not sure that term even exists in the NCAA
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Some homer used the term " conflict of interest" earlier. I'm not sure that term even exists in the NCAA
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:19 pm to MullenBoys
As I understand it the NCAA is questioning the players, not to dig up new rule violations, but to see if the people at OM have lied to them.
And a lie to the NCAA is not something you want to be caught doing.
Lack of IC will be a deal breaker for OM.
And a lie to the NCAA is not something you want to be caught doing.
Lack of IC will be a deal breaker for OM.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:19 pm to Vecchio Cane
Are you stupid. It is a conflict of interest to ignore why a recruit went to said school just to find out what he was offered by another school. Basic logic says he took more to go to the school he is at which the NCAA doesn't care about. So the NCAA wouldn't be interested in making sure everyone was clean, which is its purpose, which is the definition of a conflict of interest.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:20 pm to HottyToddy7
Fishing. My favorite pass time...
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:20 pm to Herman Frisco
So a recruit at a rival school is more trustworthy than a coach at OM? That is a shaky argument.
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:21 pm to HottyToddy7
hundie
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:21 pm to TampaReb
quote:Has the Committee on Infractions weighed in on the matter?
Well the NCAA disagrees they only put failure to monitor on the rental cars in the NOA.
Serious question....Be honest - Do you consider it Lack of Institutional Control when numerous allegations cover back to back coaching staffs and AD's across multiple sports in addition to academic fraud?
Sounds to me like that Ole Miss as an institution hasn't been able to control shite in their Athletic Department for a very long time. And they've completely failed to monitor their coaches in multiple sports. What the hell has your Compliance Department been doing all these years?
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:23 pm to TampaReb
quote:Did Mullenboy insinuate that the grade fixing was before or after 2010?
Ole miss fired the guy that did the ACT fraud in 2010.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:23 pm to HottyToddy7
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Are you stupid. It is a conflict of interest to ignore why a recruit went to said school just to find out what he was offered by another school. Basic logic says he took more to go to the school he is at which the NCAA doesn't care about
Well, MSU supposedly offered Cam money but he chose to go elsewhere and that school was not found guilty of giving him money.
Also, look up the Albert Means case. Bama got hammered, but KY and TN got off completely free in exchange for their testimony - even though both offered Means' coaches money, too.
There is precedent. Ole Miss made NCAA look bad with the Tunsil stuff. They decided to look deeper. How confident are you they won't find more? Stop worrying about fair and other schools. The NCAA is making this about Ole Miss. Hoping something happens to another school is wasted energy at this point.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:24 pm to RT1941
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I don't know about the grade fixing accusation he just made. But if folks are sketchy enough to fix ACT scores just to get them IN school would they fix grades to keep them academically eligible to play ball?
Yeah, now that their arse is under a much bigger microscope lately since the Ncaa found worse stuff, Ole Miss comes out this week that a player is "academically ineligible" to make it look as if they are so tough on these things lmao. It was a mistake somehow, poor guy lol. But you see everything? Ole Miss is proving how strict they are about going by the book!!
(Meanwhile while boosters disassociated from ole miss are appearing on campus.....)
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:26 pm to MullenBoys
MB you better be telling the truth. Your stuff is what I tell the guys at work. I haven't read it all today but they will definitely here this one:
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Meanwhile while boosters disassociated from ole miss are appearing on campus
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:26 pm to RT1941
Honest answer is it depends on the facts. Was the institution doing its part in trying to stop the infractions. Didn't the institution discover a lot of the infractions?
This started with Ole Miss and the SEC going to the NCAA about WBB. Then it was Ole Miss and the NCAA that found Saunders stuff out. Those details are what matter and why I guess the NCAA thought LOIC did not apply here.
This started with Ole Miss and the SEC going to the NCAA about WBB. Then it was Ole Miss and the NCAA that found Saunders stuff out. Those details are what matter and why I guess the NCAA thought LOIC did not apply here.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:27 pm to HottyToddy7
Are you stupid. It is a conflict of interest to ignore why a recruit went to said school just to find out what he was offered by another school. Basic logic says he took more to go to the school he is at which the NCAA doesn't care about. So the NCAA wouldn't be interested in making sure everyone was clean, which is its purpose, which is the definition of a conflict of interest.
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I get that you don't like your schools interests having conflict thrown upon them. I'm saying that " conflict of interest" is not a term that carries weight in the NCAA. They don't have to deny a conflict or interest, nor do they care
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I get that you don't like your schools interests having conflict thrown upon them. I'm saying that " conflict of interest" is not a term that carries weight in the NCAA. They don't have to deny a conflict or interest, nor do they care
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:30 pm to MullenBoys
What are you talking about the NCAA found that Jordan wasn't eligible to play when Ole Miss was getting him cleared for this year.
Well that depends what boosters and when they we're dissociated it isn't a life time ban. Oh and Link to that??
Well that depends what boosters and when they we're dissociated it isn't a life time ban. Oh and Link to that??
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:31 pm to HottyToddy7
quote:If you go fishing for bass and you catch a catfish, are going to throw it back?
NCAA has nothing, on fishing expedition
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:31 pm to HottyToddy7
quote:What if the NCAA found out that a recruit was offered to visit OM before he ever signed to play for another program?
Are you stupid. It is a conflict of interest to ignore why a recruit went to said school just to find out what he was offered by another school. Basic logic says he took more to go to the school he is at which the NCAA doesn't care about. So the NCAA wouldn't be interested in making sure everyone was clean, which is its purpose, which is the definition of a conflict of interest.
And now after signing with another program and after the NCAA investigated the matter, they are just now getting around to interviewing the player (who happens to have signed at another program) to try to corroborate what they've officially been told by OM?
I'm not talking huge $$ here - rumor is that OM was willing to pay $500 to get recruits just to visit. I suppose once they visited they would have gotten the low down on how much Barney could muster up for momma's monthly power bill.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:32 pm to HottyToddy7
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Basic logic says he took more to go to the school he is at which the NCAA doesn't care about.
Your logic not basic as to defend your position. How about the basic logic that said recruit went elsewhere instead of Ole Miss because Ole Miss was offering items not allowed by the NCAA and did not want to jeopardize their eligibility. I know you line of thinking that all recruits have their hands out but do not lump all recruits in with Ole Miss recruits.
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