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re: NCAA has nothing, on fishing expedition

Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by sunseeker
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2016
2651 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:46 pm to
They have nothing. True, I mean what little they do have is on Houston Nutt.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30190 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:48 pm to
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TampaReb

You were busier than a cat covering up shite in a litter box back in April & May when you worked tirelessly to defend OM and debunk anything anyone tried to tell you about the recruit/player interviews that were taking place.

Not only have players been interviewed, the parents of players that signed with other teams have been questioned by the NCAA as well. Some momma's don't take too kindly to grown men trying to "handle" their son's like they're on an auction block. (Is that why signed to play up North?)
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:50 pm to
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And because a player at a rival school says that you think the NCAA will just take that? They have to have some proof of it.


They are talking to players at other schools to catch OM coaches/administrators in a lie. That's why they offer 'immunity' and they aren't necessarily looking to dig up new issues.

They are trying to verify specific things they were told during the investigation, and they are doing so by reaching out to kids who have no incentive to lie/cover-up for OM (which is why they are going to players from other schools).
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:51 pm to
Tampa are you stuck on stupid? I have been dead on about what I post and you always demand a "Link" when there is no link. I have the very best inside info and you tell you how I obtain that is never going to happen.

You're just mad as hell out of your sick mind that you've been wrong about everything. Eat it boy and move along.
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:53 pm to
No back in April and May I said that questionsing recruits after signing day isn't abnormal and you can look at how the NCAA questioned Chris Jones after signing day and it led to nothing. I even provided articles on that.

Also if you want to look at moms being asked about Ole Miss recruiting look at Gary's mom from last year that totally refutes Ole Miss offering money but said others did.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30190 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:54 pm to
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No. Mullenboy was talking about how we were going to get nailed for recutting of Anderson and other kids that came to Ole Miss. Plus he stated that these types of interviews were happening before draft night. If either of those are ture then Forde is totally wrong with his article. He stated that after draft night they focused on Tunsil and have moved to interviewing recruits at other schools. That means all interviews happen after draft night which is different then Mulleboy and nothing on the current Ole Miss recruiting class. Again different then Mullenboy. If Forde is right he is wrong.


So you're just trying say a guy on the internet is wrong and can't seem to focus on the real issue here.

The NCAA has been steadily interviewing recruits (and some parents) before and after NSD and even after the draft night fiasco and apparently on into the freaking summer too.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17716 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:55 pm to
The NCAA isn't going down OM's list of recruits and interviewing errrrybody.

They are only calling on players to corroborate statements that have already been made.

Therefore, its in the interest of the players to tell the truth. Bogus claims or exaggerated claims against Om aren't going to hold any weight
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:56 pm to
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After draft night Ole Miss never said the investigation was over so you saying it wasn't is not big news.


You're right, he said it prior to draft. In February of 2016 to be exact.

No mo NCAA
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:57 pm to
So Forde is wrong? You are to scared to provide specifics because you know you can't spin it if you do. You were so sure the NCAA was all in on nailing us for 3 of our recruits at least but Forte said it was Tunsil now recruits at other schools. Nothing on the Ole Miss class of 2016. And he isn't reporting the NCAA found anything just digging.
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:58 pm to
That was post Draft night. If you believe the Pat Forde article then that means that after draft night they looked in to Tunsil and then have widened that investigation. Not that this was all an ongoing investigation before draft night.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:59 pm to
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eep being to scared give facts and again give me one quote from Bjork where he says it was all Nutt. Not a quote where he says it was mostly past staff AND Tunsil but just Nutt.

If this article is true and they just started interviewing recruits at other schools after draft night you comments in the past before draft night of that happening are wrong.



This article seemed to be spot on...

All is well
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19669 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:01 pm to
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And because a player at a rival school says that you think the NCAA will just take that? They have to have some proof of it.
why do people think the ncaa is the legal system?
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:03 pm to
Yes past staff (4) + Tunsil (3) makes up 7 of the 13 violations. And 7 of the 8 level 1s. That is most of the allegations.
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:04 pm to
Tampa, you might be the biggest clown in denial of your base. Chris Jones was interviewed about the way Ole Miss recruited him. Hugh Freeze continued to make contact with Chris AFTER he signed with MSU which sparked a discussion about why does Freeze keep contacting signed players.

Before it became known that Ole Miss contacted Simmons after he already signed with MSU telling him "If things don't work out at MSU you have a home here at Ole Miss - that lined up with what other players has said from other programs.

Boy, if you only knew how bad it is you'd be crying. It is a HUGE scandal involving numerous boosters, coaches both past and present, much bigger benefits than you realize, grade fixing at a higher level than first resported....

Lets just say it's institutionalized and for you to believe what you are being told makes you look like such a fool. Done with you, it's pointless to debate someone who called me a liar and has defended everything that you were proven wrong about.
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 4:14 pm
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:04 pm to
I'm going off of how they have acted in this investigation. If that wasn't true they would have put in more of what Miller said to them.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30190 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:04 pm to
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Yes past staff (4) + Tunsil (3) makes up 7 of the 13 violations. And 7 of the 8 level 1s. That is most of the allegations.


OUCH!
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13966 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:06 pm to
Sorantable pls
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:10 pm to
Why couldn't Freeze still talk to Jones there is nothing wrong there.

More accusation you have no proof of.

No grade fixing has been reported. ACT fraud but no grade fixing. There is not one thing in the NOA of us illegally fixing grades. Saunders gave around $1,700 to help kids with tutors, tuition and transportation. But if you want to give specifics???
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30190 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:10 pm to
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Lets just say it's institutiomalized and for you to believe what you are being told makes you look like such a fool. Done with you, it's pointless to debate someone who called me a liar and has defended everything that you were proven wrong about.



Pointless indeed. Just based on the NOA and what's been made public it's scathing. This shite covers back to back coaching staff's and AD's with academic fraud mixed in.

If that's not Lack of Institutional Control, Failure to Monitor, and failure to operate in an environment of Compliance then I don't know what is?
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:12 pm to
Well the NCAA disagrees they only put failure to monitor on the rental cars in the NOA.
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