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re: NCAA APR scores released

Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:05 pm to
Arkansas just barely staying eligible for the postseason.... But I thought Bert had some higher standard than everybody else?
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:05 pm to
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Dude, you know all this means is bamas academic support staff do more of the work for their athletes than any other program.

Always been that way and bama will be at the top no matter what athletes are enrolled.

Go back and look at the past several years. Bama always at the top, doesn't matter who the athletes are as they never do their own work anyway.



Not everyone can have a world class email-based sociology program.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12249 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:10 pm to
Making fun of a 19 year old with a legit disease. Keep it classy, trash.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37295 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:12 pm to
oh you, i forget i like you.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37295 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Arkansas just barely staying eligible for the postseason.... But I thought Bert had some higher standard than everybody else?


gpa has gone up since bert has been here, in time the apr will as well. is that too complicated for ya to understand?

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44016 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:19 pm to
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Keep it classy, trash.

quote:

`Take some more tea,' the March Hare said to Alice, very earnestly.

`I've had nothing yet,' Alice replied in an offended tone, `so I can't take more.'
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40851 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:23 pm to
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gpa has gone up since bert has been here, in time the apr will as well. is that too complicated for ya to understand?


Apparently how this whole APR thing works is a little too complicated for a portion of the Auburn posters.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:24 pm to
Have they re-evaluated the APR formula recently? I'm still a bit dubious about the way they handle early entrants into the pros and similar situations. Not that it's an issue for us most of the time, but, philosophically, I have some doubts.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12249 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:32 pm to
Just like everything else, Butch still digging out of Dooleys hole..........

"The Tennessee football team increased its single-year APR score to 972 in 2013-14, the highest APR mark in the history of the program and a significant improvement from the 909 posted in 2011-12. This increased the multiyear APR for football from 932 to 945."

Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41813 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:42 pm to
More proud of this stat:

quote:

In addition, of 230 athletic departments ranked, LSU was one of only seven that relied completely on self-generated revenue along with Texas, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Penn State, Nebraska and Purdue. Every other SEC school received some sort of subsidy, the least being Kentucky with $861,548.
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:54 pm to
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the least being Kentucky with $861,548.


Even with the largest Athletic Department in the SEC.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 2:58 pm to
there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

this stat can be manipulated just like hiding players that nick saban missed on by putting them on injury scholarship
Posted by JDHLaw
Member since Jun 2013
1040 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 3:03 pm to
APR scores aren't really a reflect of "smart" or "dumb." They are more a reflection of retention than anything else. GPA, for example, has no bearing on APR scores except for the calculation of "in good standing."

APR has a maximum score of 1000. It is calculated by taking the teams total points accrued divided by total points possible and multiplying by 1000.

During each semester, each scholarship athlete can (theoretically) contribute 2 points towards the APR.

1 point is awarded if the athlete is academically eligible. 1 point is awarded if the athlete returns to school full-time (or graduates) in the following semester.

Using Kentucky as an example, there were very few instances of academic ineligibility causing its APR to fall. Rashad Cunningham is the only one I can really think of that cost UK a point during Stoops' time here.

Where the APR really takes a hit is transfers and dismissals. UK had a ton of dismissals/transfers when Stoops came on board. Some were more harmful than others:

E.g., if Player A finished the spring semester academically eligible and returned for the fall semester (or graduated), UK got 2 points.

If Player B finished the spring semester academically ineligible (Cunningham) but returned to school for the fall semester, UK got 1 point.

If Player C finished the spring semester academically eligible but transferred to, say, USF (AJ Legree) UK got 1 point.

If Player D finished the spring semester academically ineligible and did not come back in the fall semester UK got 0 points.

Same rules for dismissals, depending on academic standing, because UK was guaranteed to lose at least 1 point because the athlete did not return.

Teams can also lose a lot of points when players declare early and finish the fall semester academically ineligible (e.g., Mike Dyer at UL).

UK's APR will improve substantially next year, as the numbers cited by OP are the four year rolling average. UK's single year APR for 13-14 was 980, while the 10-11 APR was 941.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15275 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 3:04 pm to
way better than ANCs grouping.
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15578 posts
Posted on 5/28/15 at 1:16 am to
14 of 20 LSU Athletic programs finished with a 975 or above, 11 with a 980 or above; including 3 with a 1,000 score.
17 of the 20 had a 963 or above.
If you don't include all the early football entrants to the NFL draft, LSU easily finishes in Top 3 in football.....
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 1:22 am
Posted by blue_morrison
Member since Jan 2013
5103 posts
Posted on 5/28/15 at 1:19 am to
Arkansas
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42604 posts
Posted on 5/28/15 at 1:53 am to
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Bunch of dumb dumbs


You realize APR is just a measure attrition/those who leave in poor standing, right, right? Of course ya don't.

Happy to say our APR is finally going up. OTOH, our GPA which counts for shite with NCAA is pretty damned awesome. However, even our APR will rise when we complete the waiver process. So nyah.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29446 posts
Posted on 5/28/15 at 1:56 am to
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four year rolling average


So you're telling me our numbers go back to Petrino and John L. Smith? And we're last in the conference?

This is how shocked I am:
Posted by betweenthebara
nowhere
Member since May 2013
6183 posts
Posted on 5/28/15 at 1:59 am to
Pigz.

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Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42604 posts
Posted on 5/28/15 at 2:09 am to
OP needs to make a correction.

Our MULTIYEAR AVG. is 945 (thanks Dooley!) BUT our 2013-2014 score is 972. (These are football scores).

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