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National Seed Resumes

Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:40 pm
I'll post without comment for now.

Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:42 pm to
Oh my, that would generate some salt.
Posted by MSU5
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:43 pm to
So traditionally the top 8 of this list are chosen as the national seeds?
Posted by tmc94
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:44 pm to
D1 guys said last week that no team has ever gotten a national seed with a losing record vs top 25. There was one case at .500
Posted by anc
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:44 pm to
1. Miami
2. Florida
3. A&M
4. Louisville
5. Mississippi State
6. Texas Tech
7. South Carolina
8. Cal State Fullerton


Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:45 pm to
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So traditionally the top 8 of this list are chosen as the national seeds?



No, I doubt that has ever happened perfectly like that. This is just ranked by RPI.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:45 pm to
That's crazy to me out of 16 teams there's only 4 losses to RPI 200+ teams.
Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:46 pm to
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8. Cal State Fullerton



RPI - 44

No chance in hell
Posted by CidCock
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:46 pm to
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That's crazy to me out of 16 teams there's only 4 losses to RPI 200+ teams.



Who did MSU lose to?
Posted by anc
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:46 pm to
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So traditionally the top 8 of this list are chosen as the national seeds?



No. RPI is a tool. Last year, the #2 RPI team wasn't a national seed.

Posted by tmc94
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

So traditionally the top 8 of this list are chosen as the national seeds?

Not really. I don't think anyone outside the top 16 has ever been chosen but all the things on this list are looked at.

Louisville had a 12 RPI last year but got the #3 NS. Pretty comparable to State this year as they won the ACC.
Posted by anc
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:46 pm to
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Who did MSU lose to?



Midweek game to Eastern Kentucky.
Posted by CidCock
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:47 pm to
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D1 guys said last week that no team has ever gotten a national seed with a losing record vs top 25. There was one case at .500


It's pretty interesting to think about. Does record vs top 25 matter or does overall record matter? Would you rather be 3-13 against top 25 and undefeated otherwise?

Not sure what that says TBH
Posted by cbi8
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:47 pm to
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Who did MSU lose to?



Eastern Kentucky in one of the oddest games I've ever seen.
Posted by anc
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:48 pm to
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RPI - 44

No chance in hell


West coast TV slot = $$$$

Might not be Fullerton, but some West coast team will be the #8.

Honestly, who is going to be the eighth?

No conference has ever gotten more than three, the SEC has four locks in my opinion. Miami and Louisville are locks, as is Texas Tech.

Does the ACC get a third?
Coastal Carolina? They just got swept three games by a lower half of the ACC Georgia Tech.
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 12:51 pm
Posted by DeathPenalty
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:50 pm to
Miss State, Fla, A&M and South Car guaranteed national seed.

Posted by Farmer1906
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Might not be Fullerton, but some West coast team will be the #8.



But who?

UC Santa Barbara is RPI 20, but 3rd in the Big West, 3 200+ losses, & 0 top 25 wins.
Arizona? Are they west coast enough? RPI 25, but 4th in the Pac, only 33 wins (20 losses already), and again zero top 25 wins.


No other west cost teams are anywhere close, not that these 2 are.
Posted by VivaZapata27
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:52 pm to
I'm betting those top five plus MSU, Texas Tech and Virginia. Those top five plus TT and State are iron clad locks IMO. One of those other teams winning the ACC or SEC tournament could supplant UVA.
Posted by tmc94
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

It's pretty interesting to think about. Does record vs top 25 matter or does overall record matter? Would you rather be 3-13 against top 25 and undefeated otherwise?

Not sure what that says TBH

not sure either.

I think they look at it that a NS should be favored even vs the top 25.

But obviously who in the top 25 you played matters. Why is 4-5 @1,@ 2, @3 somehow worse than 5-4 vs 23, vs 24, vs 25? But I do think when you hear a stat like that it's pretty obviously a factor they focus on.
Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:52 pm to
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Does the ACC get a third?


If they do, I think it'll be UVA with an okay showing in the conference tourney.
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