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My analysis of why arkansas lost
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:00 pm
1. LSU is a very good team
2. We abandoned the run game as soon as we got down
3. punt return really swung momentum
4. First time i've seen wilson feel the pressure, i'm not sure he wasn't playing with a concussion in the 4th
5. turnovers were an absolute no no if we wanted to win
6. we didn't play a complete game.
7. willy rob backed off the high pressure defense that was working well.
This game is on both the coaches and the players. Petrino abandoned the run almost completely once we got down by a touchdown in the second quarter we were moving the ball effectively and should have kept doing what was working.
2. We abandoned the run game as soon as we got down
3. punt return really swung momentum
4. First time i've seen wilson feel the pressure, i'm not sure he wasn't playing with a concussion in the 4th
5. turnovers were an absolute no no if we wanted to win
6. we didn't play a complete game.
7. willy rob backed off the high pressure defense that was working well.
This game is on both the coaches and the players. Petrino abandoned the run almost completely once we got down by a touchdown in the second quarter we were moving the ball effectively and should have kept doing what was working.
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Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:00 pm to oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:01 pm to oklahogjr
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we were moving the ball effectively and should have kept doing what was working.
you mean 1 drive?
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:01 pm to oklahogjr
Dude, I like you. But it's time to let it go...6 hour rule. Forget a win after 6 hours and forget a loss after 6 hours and move on....
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:02 pm to oklahogjr
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4. First time i've seen wilson feel the pressure, i'm not sure he wasn't playing with a concussion in the 4th
Come on. Let's quit with the excuses.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:03 pm to oklahogjr
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6. we didn't play a complete game.
Arkansas played well for one drive and a turnover. That's about it. All in those few minutes.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:03 pm to Marty McFrat
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Dude, I like you. But it's time to let it go...6 hour rule. Forget a win after 6 hours and forget a loss after 6 hours and move on....
sorry was going to make this thread yesterday after the game but i went out with friends last night so i figured i would post my analysis today.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:04 pm to Gr8t8s
because Arkansas really isn't a good team. Never will be just let it go and enjoy your meaningless bowl. 
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:05 pm to Scruffy
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Come on. Let's quit with the excuses.
This was actually brought up in the game thread by a tiger fan. Wilson didn't play great and that was on him but he usually doesn't let pressure affect his judgement like he did yesterday. Doesn't change that LSU deserved a win because Tyler wasn't leading us back. All it effects is if the 4th quarter surrender was on the coaches for playing a concussed player or on wilson for just playing like shite.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:13 pm to oklahogjr
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Petrino abandoned the run almost completely once we got down by a touchdown in the second quarter we were moving the ball effectively and should have kept doing what was working
First, Arkansas ran for what, 50 yards? Arkansas was not running the ball effectively at all.
I'm surprised Arkansas didn't try to spread LSU out, pass the ball some, and then run the draw play from the 3-4 wide sets. That's what I expected, and I was somewhat worried about its effectiveness. Yet, I don't recall seeing that much at all.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:16 pm to gallagherkck
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First, Arkansas ran for what, 50 yards? Arkansas was not running the ball effectively at all.
Our running backs had like 70 but we completely abandoned the run for most of the game and then acted shocked when the defense looked worn out as frick...
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I'm surprised Arkansas didn't try to spread LSU out, pass the ball some,
We were moving the ball when we were running and passing...it kept the defense honest. I too think we should have used the draw more as it would have kept the defense honest.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:18 pm to oklahogjr
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This was actually brought up in the game thread by a tiger fan
Doesn't make the excuse any more valid.
btw, this looks like you are trying to join the ranks of fans saying that LSU didn't beat you, you beat yourself.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:20 pm to fightin tigers
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btw, this looks like you are trying to join the ranks of fans saying that LSU didn't beat you, you beat yourself.
i'm not that's why i put you guys being a very good team as the #1 reason.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:21 pm to Marty McFrat
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Dude, I like you. But it's time to let it go...6 hour rule. Forget a win after 6 hours and forget a loss after 6 hours and move on....
Truly an amazing statement coming from a fan of the team that squeezed the juice of a lucky victory over LSU for approximately a year.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:21 pm to oklahogjr
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1. LSU is a very good team
Tru dat
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2. We abandoned the run game as soon as we got down
You didn't really have a choice. The way we began to run the ball and drive, you had to pass. Otherwise, you'd run into more stalled drives and/or help our strategy of running down the clock. Literally.
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3. punt return really swung momentum
True dat
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4. First time i've seen wilson feel the pressure, i'm not sure he wasn't playing with a concussion in the 4th
I think the "late" hit by Baker really fricked Wilson up. I'd wonder if it hurt more than the hit by Upshaw during the Alabama game. After that hit, Wilson was never the same. I think another factor was our coverage getting better as the game progressed, which allowed the speed of our ends and blitzing DBs to show. I can recall a few sacks/hurries where Wilson simply had nowhere to go with the ball.
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5. turnovers were an absolute no no if we wanted to win
With the exception of maybe the Claiborne pick, all of your turnovers were forced.
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6. we didn't play a complete game.
7. willy rob backed off the high pressure defense that was working well.
These go hand in hand. I think as you began to see our O-Line flex and the Ark d-Line tire, that high pressure defense started to fail. Not to mention, Miles/Stud kept that Arkansas defense running from sideline to sideline all game with screens, quick throws to the flats, and options.
Its just really hard for a defense keep its breath when you've got 4-5 star lineman imposing their will in the trenches and skill players that keep you running from sideline to sideline on every down.
This post was edited on 11/26/11 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:26 pm to oklahogjr
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i'm not that's why i put you guys being a very good team as the #1 reason.
Of course, that is probably 95% of the reasons Arky lost. Better team, better athletes, better coaching. Unfortunately you posted 4 or 5 excuses after the first. Arky had turnovers because LSU caused them. Arky abandoned the defensive scheme because they couldn't keep it up. The QB was rattled because of the LSU defense.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:27 pm to FamousAmos
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I think the "late" hit by Baker really fricked Wilson up. I'd wonder if it hurt more than the hit by Upshaw during the Alabama game. After that hit, Wilson was never the same. I think another factor was our coverage getting better as the game progressed, which allowed the speed of our ends and blitzing DBs to show. I can recall a few sacks/hurries where Wilson simply had nowhere to go with the ball.
i agree with this. That's why i think the concussion was possible. Wilson got one from the bama game so logic says that a harder hit could definitely give him one in this game.
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With the exception of maybe the Claiborne pick, all of your turnovers were forced.
Yes they were but usually that can be fixed by just focusing on holding on to the ball.
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These go hand in hand. I think as you began to see our O-Line flex and the D-Line tire, that high pressure defense started to fail. Not to mention, Miles/Stud kept that Arkansas defense running from sideline to sideline all game with screens, quick throws to the flats, and options.
This is why we should have run more...our Dline was worn out at the end of the game and it showed we run more and they aren't as worn out. You guys were very inconsistent on offense till our defense was on the field for whole quarters at a time. We abandoned the run and with that we basically abandoned our defense.
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:28 pm to oklahogjr
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My analysis of why arkansas lost
I thought it was because LSU scored more points than the hogs.....
Posted on 11/26/11 at 1:30 pm to fightin tigers
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Unfortunately you posted 4 or 5 excuses after the first.
Those aren't excuses those are observations. Excuse would be that we got cheated by the refs or some bullshite...I stated we couldn't turn the ball over and we did. Forced fumbles can be prevented if you concentrate on not ever losing your grip on the ball. It was a good job by LSU to keep trying to take the ball though it's what good defenses do.
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