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re: More overrated coach-Bret Bielma or Butch Jones
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:20 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:20 pm to thunderbird1100
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Except Petrino won 10 and 11 games back to back there in seasons 3 and 4. So, explain that
Zach Hocker.
It's pretty simple really. Petrino likely loses to Ole Miss and Vandy in 2011 with the kicker we had last year. I don't get so hung up on wins just because nearly every game in the SEC west is decided by which way the ball rolls. As long as there is improvement and we don't go back to 2012 or 13 level again I'm fine with Bielema for now. With that said, if we don't take the next step in the next few years his seat will get hot.
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 4:38 pm to thunderbird1100
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Except Petrino won 10 and 11 games back to back there in seasons 3 and 4. So, explain that. Do you think a good coach couldn't have won 10 games last season at Arkansas?
I could also ask, does he not get credit for having his team play so well you think it was a 10 win team?
No way you thought that in the preseason
You can't have it both ways
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:20 pm to Swimthroughtheswamp
Is this a real question? Stroke face coaches circles around Lyle.
The end.
The end.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:25 pm to NielsBoar
Did he really inherit that bad of a situation? I'm sure Petrino left plenty of talent behind. The problem is that John L. Smith couldn't coach it at all in 2012. Smith probably did a bad job recruiting for the 2013 class but that would affect on the field results more in 2015 and 2016 than in 2013. Not very many freshman usually start.
And the fact of the matter is that when you're 0-8 in the SEC your first year you can't do any worse the 2nd year. Heck he was 0-13 in the SEC-I might manage to get lucky and win just one conference game if I coached 13 SEC games.
And the fact of the matter is that when you're 0-8 in the SEC your first year you can't do any worse the 2nd year. Heck he was 0-13 in the SEC-I might manage to get lucky and win just one conference game if I coached 13 SEC games.
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:36 pm to Swimthroughtheswamp
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UF swims through the Swamp. UF opponents drown in it.
The swamp is so ugly
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:39 pm to cajunbama
Beat his arse at Neyland with top 50 recruiting classes. It's Botch by a mile.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:46 pm to Swimthroughtheswamp
I would think Beliema by a lot. It doesn't seem like very many people actually think Butch is a good coach yet but I have seen media guys say Beliema is one of the best coaches in the conference and a lot of his fans actually think he is good . I would think The Vols are as good or better then they were before Butch while Arkansas is not even close to being as good as they we're before Beliema .
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:47 pm to Swimthroughtheswamp
Bert's a damn good coach. I'd have no problem with Bama hiring him some day.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:49 pm to Swimthroughtheswamp
Macklewang
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:56 pm to Swimthroughtheswamp
Yes he had a terrible situation. Petrino was here to watch his great first class graduate and just look at the attrition of his classes. Not sure without looking but one Petrino class had like 15 guys never contribute due to being kicked off and transferring
Posted on 5/23/16 at 5:58 pm to lefty08
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Not sure without looking but one Petrino class had like 15 guys never contribute due to being kicked off and transferring
pretty sure that was the 2010 class
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:03 pm to Swimthroughtheswamp
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I'm sure Petrino left plenty of talent behind.
No, he didn't. On top of the massive amount of attrition Petrino neglected both lines. He also let the receiving core turn to shite by the end of his tenure. Petrino got lucky with the in-state WR crop his first year. Bielema has far out-recruited him there.
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I might manage to get lucky and win just one conference game if I coached 13 SEC games.
no
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:04 pm to lefty08
Also he has upgraded his assistant coaches drastically.My lord,cheney was awful....
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:09 pm to tjv305
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I would think Beliema by a lot
Considering your strange obsession with Bielema and Arkansas, I don't think this surprises anyone.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:11 pm to Swimthroughtheswamp
Butch jones. Bielema went to Neyland and whipped him
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:19 pm to tjv305
Agreed. It has to be Bielma because people don't always rate jones that highly.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:31 pm to Swimthroughtheswamp
I think Bret is a good coach but is having some difficulties recruiting in the SEC. Butch is a snake oil salesman. He's all flash with very little substance. That doesn't mean he can't have a good year, but that I doubt he'll be able to string several successful years together (10+ win years).
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:33 pm to TT9
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TT9
Upvoted.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:34 pm to texag7
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texag7
Upvoted.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 6:54 pm to TideJoe
Bielema is just ahead of where we are historically in recruiting rankings, he has actually been slightly better
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