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re: Mike Leach says SEC is "nothing special"

Posted on 1/24/17 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24348 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 12:40 pm to
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That you're ate up with a conference.


You're not even making any sense now. All of those years finishing just out of reach of anything meaningful has certainly done a number on ole Boomer here.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 12:49 pm to
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I really would like to see Leach line his OL up with 3 yard gaps against a DL like Alabama or LSU. Hell, he can't even win doing it in the PAC12.


What he's done at Washington St is amazing tbh. Dude is a top football mind without a doubt.

And the SEC was garbage this year.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:02 pm to
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Nothing wrong with SEC offenses. I really would like to see Leach line his OL up with 3 yard gaps against a DL like Alabama or LSU. Hell, he can't even win doing it in the PAC12.




He's at friggin Wazzou. Nobody consistently wins there. He's actually had a better first 5 years than their GOAT modern coach Mike Price.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:16 pm to
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I'm ate up with the conference of the school I graduated from..... twice?
No offense to you personally, but this is the type of shite that folks on this board spew out, and then turn right around and say, "I don't give a frick about any other SEC team and wish they'd lose every game". People need to realize that the conference should be like a family of brothers...fight each other all you want, but when it comes time to defend the family from outsiders, close ranks and come together. You can't want SEC teams to lose to outsiders then turn around and bitch when somebody points out that the conference is weak because it's losing to other teams.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:20 pm to
No Argument here in terms of last year
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:35 pm to
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People need to realize that the conference should be like a family of brothers...fight each other all you want, but when it comes time to defend the family from outsiders, close ranks and come together.


Yeah..... frick all that
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:42 pm to
Then tell all your fans to quit bitching when outsiders call the conference weak because it can't hold its own against other teams. You can't have it both ways.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 2:43 pm
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24348 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:42 pm to
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No offense to you personally, but this is the type of shite that folks on this board spew out, and then turn right around and say, "I don't give a frick about any other SEC team and wish they'd lose every game". People need to realize that the conference should be like a family of brothers...fight each other all you want, but when it comes time to defend the family from outsiders, close ranks and come together. You can't want SEC teams to lose to outsiders then turn around and bitch when somebody points out that the conference is weak because it's losing to other teams.



I'm most definitely on board with this line of thinking other than when Bama is playing for a national championship. You frickers have enough.

All I was doing was pointing out to the fricking Oklahoma fan on the SEC Rant that he's a moron for acting like anyone here would be "ate up" with the SEC.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:47 pm to
I'll guarantee this...if an SEC team is playing anybody out of conference in any game, I'm pulling for them.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:10 pm to
I'm not sure what Leach is trying to get at here. His team couldn't beat Eastern Washington State and on top of that, played three ranked teams (going 1-2 in the process).

With the exception of Alabama, the SEC was down this year. I don't know, maybe Vanderbilt and Kentucky had decent years. But, in reality, the SEC really had nowhere else to go but down.

The Pac 12 was nothing too special as well. 6/12 teams couldn't get to bowl eligibility.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:15 pm to
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I'm not sure what Leach is trying to get at here. His team couldn't beat Eastern Washington State and on top of that, played three ranked teams (going 1-2 in the process).

With the exception of Alabama, the SEC was down this year. I don't know, maybe Vanderbilt and Kentucky had decent years. But, in reality, the SEC really had nowhere else to go but down.

The Pac 12 was nothing too special as well. 6/12 teams couldn't get to bowl eligibility.
Leach wasn't trying to compare conferences, only pointing out that there was nothing special about the SEC last year. Hell, I'm pretty sure he'd say the same for the Pac-12.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:15 pm to
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What he's done at Washington St is amazing tbh


Is it?

2012: 3-9
2013: 6-7
2014: 3-9
2015: 9-4; lost to Portland State and went 1-2 against ranked teams
2016: 8-5; lost to Eastern Washington and went 1-2 against ranked teams.

I'm not sure if I'd call that "amazing." He has improved recently, but is still having difficulties beating ranked opponents and he's had some head scratching losses.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10232 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:19 pm to
Yeah the put a whole 10 points on the only defense close to theirs in the league. LSU got rid of it's 3 yards and cloud of dust offensive genius Les Miles. The next few years will be interesting get ready gumps. As for as the Okie good on you for beating both of those rednecks' arses.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:24 pm to
Do what?They were garbage this year...Can't think of a more overrated coach in my lifetime.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:31 pm to
The SEC was nothing special this past year.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:54 pm to
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I'm not sure if I'd call that "amazing." He has improved recently, but is still having difficulties beating ranked opponents and he's had some head scratching losses


Look at them pre-Leach and look at them now. They hadn't been to a bowl game in like a decade before him. The program he inherited hadn't won more than 4 games in a season under their precious coach

If Saban went there without the Alabama name recognition I doubt he could do much better. I'm
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27348 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 4:01 pm to
Overall, Leach is right at least this year. Bama won the West by 3 games and Florida was nothing special
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27348 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 4:12 pm to
It's really hard to recruit as WSU. If you think places like College Station or Starkeville or even Tuscaloosa are out of the way, they are actually more convenient than Pullman, Washington. It's not easy to get to when you consider the population centers. It's about 5.5 hours by car from Seattle which is the closest recruiting ground and over 1500 from the San Francisco area.

The fact he has gotten recruits out there with some real talent is actually impressive
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 7:55 pm to
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Now, I will say this. I'd love to see those teams with the high powered offenses come and deal with SEC defenses week in and week out. Take Clemson for instance. Watson was incredible in the championship game. However, he took a beating. He would have taken a similar beating against a bunch of other SEC teams during a season. They barely beat a pretty bad Auburn team. That's what people like Leach fail to realize. Your QB would never be comfortable in the pocket. Watch PAC 12 games. The QBs have all day to throw.


these kind of generalizations are dumb b/c Auburn had a better defense than Arky, Ole Miss, Tenn and other SEC teams.

And Clemson held Auburn to 12 points at home. that's why i laugh when people say CU was only Watson this year. CU likely would have won that game with another QB as well.

and reason Clemson lost to Pitt was two end zone interceptions of watson, one of which was run back for 70 yards. He also threw a pick 6 in NC State game. NCSU only scored 14 points in the game so that pick 6 was only reason they had a chance to win.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 7:59 pm
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 8:02 pm to
Nothing earth shattering. Other than Clemson and Alabama who really had elite level teams?
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