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Mike Leach or Brian Kelly
Posted on 9/4/16 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 9/4/16 at 8:43 pm
Who is the more overrated coach?
Leach at WSU
3-9
6-7
3-9
9-4
0-1
Kelly at ND
8-5
8-5
12-1
9-4
8-5
10-3
Probably 0-1 soon
Leach at WSU
3-9
6-7
3-9
9-4
0-1
Kelly at ND
8-5
8-5
12-1
9-4
8-5
10-3
Probably 0-1 soon
This post was edited on 9/4/16 at 8:51 pm
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Posted on 9/4/16 at 8:44 pm to UFFan
Id say Kelly
ND pulls top players because its ND.
Leach never had anywhere near that kind of talent
ND pulls top players because its ND.
Leach never had anywhere near that kind of talent
Posted on 9/4/16 at 8:45 pm to dbuchanon
Kelly
Posted on 9/4/16 at 8:46 pm to dbuchanon
Yeah I was leaning slightly toward Kelly myself.
These have got to be the 2 most overrated coaches in CFB.
These have got to be the 2 most overrated coaches in CFB.
Posted on 9/4/16 at 8:47 pm to UFFan
Leach by a long shot. Brian Kelly won two Division II national championships at Grand Valley State and has been a serial winner everywhere he's been.
Posted on 9/4/16 at 8:48 pm to Bench McElroy
Wow you're citing D-2 national titles?
Does anybody cite Jim Tressel's D1AA titles when talking about what a great coach he was?
Does anybody cite Jim Tressel's D1AA titles when talking about what a great coach he was?
Posted on 9/4/16 at 8:49 pm to UFFan
Leach has beaten USC, UCLA, Oregon in the last few years at Washington fricking State. Those teams had the talent edge at every position. He's not overrated at all.
This post was edited on 9/4/16 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 9/4/16 at 8:50 pm to UFFan
I thought Leach was pretty good at TT
Posted on 9/4/16 at 8:51 pm to dawgdayafternoon
He's 21-30 at WSU with losses to FCS teams 2 straight years.
I have no idea why people think he's a good coach.
I have no idea why people think he's a good coach.
This post was edited on 9/4/16 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 9/4/16 at 8:55 pm to UFFan
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Wow you're citing D-2 national titles?
Does anybody cite Jim Tressel's D1AA titles when talking about what a great coach he was?
What about turning around perennial losers Central Michigan or taking Cincinnati to back to back BCS bowl games or leading Notre Dame to the national championship game? The guy's a really good coach. I also think people have been way too hard on Charlie Strong who's a much better coach than people give him credit for.
Posted on 9/4/16 at 8:56 pm to Bench McElroy
Oh God. Now you're mentioning Charlie Strong? Who might be the 3rd most overrated CFB coach after Leach and Kelly?
Posted on 9/4/16 at 8:57 pm to UFFan
Definitely Kelly, and not just because I hate ND. Like someone said, Leach doesn't have near the players to work with.
Posted on 9/4/16 at 8:58 pm to Bench McElroy
I will say that Kelly's 12-0 season was the worst 12-0 season I've ever seen. Or at least it was until the 2014 FSU team.
Posted on 9/4/16 at 9:03 pm to UFFan
Washington State is not an easy place to win. That program has played in a total of 12 bowl games in its entire history and Leach coached 2 of them.
Posted on 9/4/16 at 9:05 pm to dawgdayafternoon
I have never seen a coach with a .412 winning percentage at their current location be so highly regarded before.
He is 21-30.
People don't realize how awful his defenses are. And really his offenses at WSU haven't been spectacular either.
He is 21-30.
People don't realize how awful his defenses are. And really his offenses at WSU haven't been spectacular either.
This post was edited on 9/4/16 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 9/4/16 at 9:19 pm to UFFan
I wonder how many 8-4 seasons Kelly can survive.
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