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LSU's "QB Issues"
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:06 pm
Conventional wisdom in a nutshell:
A) LSU is always loaded with talent (more active NFL players than anyone in the country)
B) But they are lacking competent QB play, which will limit them in 2017
I want to take a closer look at B.
Last year, in SEC games only, Danny Etling was:
#4 in completion percentage (61.1%)
#5 in QBR (128.9)
#5 in yds/att (7.36)
Very solid numbers.
And he finished strong. His last 4 games were against Arkansas, Florida, Texas A&M, and Louisville. In those 4 games he went 60/98 for 902 yards with 4 TD's and 1 INT. On a per-game basis, that's about 225 yds/game with a 61.2% completion percentage.
No, he's not Deshaun Watson or even Swag Kelly. He won't extend plays with his feet which is how you beat Bama. But this whole idea that LSU doesn't have competent QB play is simply false.
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A) LSU is always loaded with talent (more active NFL players than anyone in the country)
B) But they are lacking competent QB play, which will limit them in 2017
I want to take a closer look at B.
Last year, in SEC games only, Danny Etling was:
#4 in completion percentage (61.1%)
#5 in QBR (128.9)
#5 in yds/att (7.36)
Very solid numbers.
And he finished strong. His last 4 games were against Arkansas, Florida, Texas A&M, and Louisville. In those 4 games he went 60/98 for 902 yards with 4 TD's and 1 INT. On a per-game basis, that's about 225 yds/game with a 61.2% completion percentage.
No, he's not Deshaun Watson or even Swag Kelly. He won't extend plays with his feet which is how you beat Bama. But this whole idea that LSU doesn't have competent QB play is simply false.
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:12 pm to RidiculousHype
He's a pretty decent game manager. He's probably about like McElroy was (I don't think he's as athletic as John Parker was, but he might make better decisions).
If somebody bottles up your run game, he's not going to win the game. However, he is good enough to play off that run game when it's functional.
LSU could have (and has had) a lot worse. However, the ceiling is pretty low.
If somebody bottles up your run game, he's not going to win the game. However, he is good enough to play off that run game when it's functional.
LSU could have (and has had) a lot worse. However, the ceiling is pretty low.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:12 pm to RidiculousHype
Etling and Ensminger did as good as they could have being pushed into the captains chair mid season.
Thats why Im optimistic we can be very good with a full offseason under some good offensive coaches
Thats why Im optimistic we can be very good with a full offseason under some good offensive coaches
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:This.
He's a pretty decent game manager
Low ceiling, nothing special, but can win games if given help by defense and running game.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:15 pm to RidiculousHype
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And he finished strong.
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RidiculousHype
Got it
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:17 pm to TTsTowel
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Low ceiling, nothing special, but can win games if given help by defense and running game.
A formula which would have given LSU 10+ win seasons the last decade every year if they'd had it.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:17 pm to RidiculousHype
throwing short passes to running backs tend to inflate your your stats... but by all means tell us more about this amazing Danny Etling
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:21 pm to RidiculousHype
Slow release. Weak arm. Statue in the pocket. His passes when in the air look strikingly similar to a clear plastic sack of hammered dog shite.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:23 pm to RidiculousHype
Good stats.
I guess the idea of qb problems come from LSU not having that great of a season though they are a top 5 talented team. So if its not the qb's fault, where does the fault lie.
I guess the idea of qb problems come from LSU not having that great of a season though they are a top 5 talented team. So if its not the qb's fault, where does the fault lie.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:24 pm to RidiculousHype
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No, he's not Deshaun Watson or even Swag Kelly. He won't extend plays with his feet which is how you beat Bama. But this whole idea that LSU doesn't have competent QB play is simply false.
By LSU standards, yes, he's competent.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:26 pm to Whereisomaha
To me stats mean very little about a QB. The reason GM's in the NFL struggle so bad with QB drafts is because you can't really put your finger on what makes someone great or good. For all the crap people talk about Greg Mac he made plays when plays needed to be made. Our QB led the conference in several stats pre-injury last season, but I suspect you couldn't have found 4 coaches in our league who would have swapped QB's with us.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:26 pm to RidiculousHype
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But this whole idea that LSU doesn't have competent QB play is simply false.
So, in your opinion, why did LSU lose 4 games last year?
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:26 pm to RidiculousHype
Etling #SucksAss
How's that for conventional wisdom in a nutshell?
How's that for conventional wisdom in a nutshell?
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:29 pm to BowlJackson
Another fair and reasonable post by Bowl.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:29 pm to DawgsLife
2 of them - Les Miles
1 of them - Nick Saban
1 of them - one in a million fluke
1 of them - Nick Saban
1 of them - one in a million fluke
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:31 pm to yatesdog38
Your argument is invalid.
Last year your QB played in 13 games with 2,423 yards, 54.3 completion %, and a total QBR of 124.3
Last year Etling played in only 11 games with 2,123 yards, 59.5 completion %, and a total QBR of 135.5
But, by all means tell us more about this amazing Fitzgerald that's "better" than Etling
Last year your QB played in 13 games with 2,423 yards, 54.3 completion %, and a total QBR of 124.3
Last year Etling played in only 11 games with 2,123 yards, 59.5 completion %, and a total QBR of 135.5
But, by all means tell us more about this amazing Fitzgerald that's "better" than Etling
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:31 pm to RidiculousHype
The SEC sucked last year at the QB position. My guess you would find similar results during other years when LSU was average.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:31 pm to Tigerman97
Agreed, stats don't tell you everything. But if a guy isn't turning the ball over and is averaging about 8 yards an attempt, that means he's probably pretty solid.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:32 pm to RidiculousHype
ok. Then why did they go 7-4 in the regular season with a team "loaded with NFL talent" and competent qb play?
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:32 pm to RidiculousHype
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Agreed, stats don't tell you everything. But if a guy isn't turning the ball over and is averaging about 8 yards an attempt, that means he's probably pretty solid.
False tRant bravado aside...are you really exciting about Etling as your QB?
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 12:34 pm
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