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LSU's offense is #11 in the country in yards per play

Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:17 am
Posted by BTide
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:17 am
and first in the SEC.

This might be the most underrated unit in CFB this year.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:18 am to
Congrats, you shut us down

/thread
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:25 am to
that is with Les miles for four games
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:31 am to
Running up the score on the likes of Missouri really bumped us up there... and made Orgeron our new coach.


Thanks?
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:32 am to
Interesting would not have though they led the SEC in that stat. I bet they are near last in offensive plays per game.
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:35 am to
Skeptical response is skeptical.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:39 am to
And Bama's defense is near NFL level quality.

An unstoppable force meets an immovable object.

10-0
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:42 am to
Fournette averaging 58 yards a carry against Ole Miss inflates that
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:49 am to
Posted by shotcaller1
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:54 am to
With 30 offensive plays per game
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Fournette averaging 58 yards a carry against Ole Miss inflates that

Single game rushing record was broken twice this past season. That's impressive.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:00 am to
quote:

shitcaller1



quote:

With 30 offensive plays per game



Oh look. Texag7 in an LSU thread. Shocking.
Posted by Leonard
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:03 am to
I think it was pretty well established that if LSU came up against an elite defense this year (read: Wisconsin, Auburn, Bama, and Florida were all top-10 in ppg allowed), they struggled. But outside of that, they wrecked some teams.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:12 am to
quote:

I think it was pretty well established that if LSU came up against an elite defense this year (read: Wisconsin, Auburn, Bama, and Florida were all top-10 in ppg allowed), they struggled




Yeah, the hype about an irresistible force is nice hyperbole but... other teams actually did score points against those teams. If you watched Arkansas and FSU play Florida you should have walked away dissatisfied as a LSU fan.
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:22 am to
quote:

LSU's offense is #11 in the country in yards per play



quote:

Running up the score on the likes of Missouri really bumped us up there... and made Orgeron our new coach. 


Thanks?


This response makes you look really dumb.
Posted by BTide
Member since Dec 2016
252 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:24 am to
This is an SEC forum. People are gonna make threads about the various SEC teams.

I'm saying something good about your team as well.


Also, worth noting that LSU has that ranking even with playing all of those defensive heavy teams. That's impressive.
Posted by Leonard
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Yeah, the hype about an irresistible force is nice hyperbole but... other teams actually did score points against those teams. If you watched Arkansas and FSU play Florida you should have walked away dissatisfied as a LSU fan.


Yep. For most of the season after Auburn, we just out-talented people pretty easily. When it came to Bama & Florida, we were very rudely reminded we had an interim HC and OC handling the reins.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85790 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:35 am to
I can't blame coaches for UF. It came down to player execution and turnovers in red zone.
Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
5292 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:57 am to
quote:

Yep. For most of the season after Auburn, we just out-talented people pretty easily. When it came to Bama & Florida, we were very rudely reminded we had an interim HC and OC handling the reins.


Florida was just a weird arse game. It didn't remind me of that at all. I can't remember LSU giving up another 99 yard TD pass. Also, LSU failed to score in the redzone 7 times this season out of 37 attempts. Two of those times occurred at the end of games LSU won. 3 of them occurred in the Florida game. So, of the majority of the times LSU failed to score in the redzone when it mattered occurred in the Florida game.

Edit: I should add that the only times LSU got within the 5 yard line and didn't score all occurred in the Florida game and that happened 3 times. Drawing big far reaching conclusions about the coaching staff unable to execute against "elite" defenses" (seriously, florida sucks) is a bit much.
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 11:02 am
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36105 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 11:10 am to
Let me reply with a couple of obvious points: 1) running up the score is a thing and when you continue to try to score more instead of play conservatively that obviously affects your ypp as well as your score; 2) my assumption is the yards per play were distorted by running up big numbers against bad opponents.

I admit I should have used said something along the lines of not calling off the dogs instead of using a substitute platitude in "running up the score"... but I think any fair minded person who wasn't offended by the insinuation would understand the idea without any problem or offense being taken.

Let's evaluate whether or not my idea has any merit:


Yards/Play by Game:

Opponent: Yards:Plays:Yard/Play

Wisconsin 257yards / 50 plays : 5.01 ypp
Jacksonville State 371yards / 56 plays : 6.65 ypp
MSU 392yards / 72 plays : 5.44 ypp
Auburn 338yards / 59 plays : 5.73 ypp

Miles Fired

Missouri 634yards / 82 plays : 7.73 ypp
Southern Miss 459yards / 42 plays : 10.93 ypp
Ole Miss 515yards / 64 plays : 8.05 ypp
Alabama 125yards / 51 plays : 2.45 ypp
Arkansas 547yards / 67 plays : 8.16 ypp
Florida 423yards / 71 plays : 5.96 ypp
A&M 622yards / 74 plays : 8.41 ypp

The numbers that Orgeron ran up against teams he beat comfortably and continued to pound really do seem to pad the statistics: USM, Missouri, OM, Arkansas, and A&M. The numbers against an outstanding Alabama team were obviously horrible (even compared to what other opponents did against Alabama) and the LSU numbers against the other good opponents that beat LSU: Wisconsin, Auburn, and Florida were also much lower than average (all between 5 and 6 yards per play).

Don't you think it is true that LSU did not have a difference in real performance (in terms of either wins or ypp) against real opponents throughout the year? Alabama was the worst game, but the other three good opponents held LSU to similar results (a loss and 5-6 yards/play). Upon reflection doesn't it seem obvious the inflation did come from games against the bad teams on the schedule?
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