re: LSU Fans, why does Leslie struggle recruiting elite QB's?

SEC QB YPA 2015
1. Kyler Murray - 6.3 YPA
2. Chad Kelly - 4.7 YPA
3. Josh Dobbs - 4.6 YPA
4. Maty Mauk - 3.8 YPA
5. Dak Prescott - 3.7 YPA
6. Brandon Harris - 3.4 YPA


National QB YPA (minimum 50 attempts)
1. Jerrard Randall, Arizona - 9.00
2. Favian Upshaw, Ga Southern - 7.35
3. Jalen Nixon, ULL - 6.66
4. Jeff Smith, Boston College - 6.31
5. Kevin Ellison, Ga Southern - 6.25
6. Tyrone Swoopes, Texas - 6.09
7. Marquise Williams, UNC - 6.00
8. JT Barrett, Ohio State - 5.93
9. Lamar Jackson, Louisville - 5.89
10. Gus Ragland, Miami OH - 5.81



So, I mean, Dobbs is a solid runner, but he's not an elite, terrifying QB running the ball. He runs hard, is tough to stop for no gain or a loss, but outside of a couple big runs vs Florida, he is not a guy who is going to break you for 80 yards ala Nick Marshall.

This year will tell us all we need to know. Generally speaking, Les' QBs have performed better over time. Jefferson was kind of the antithesis of that, but Russell, Lee & Mettenberger all got better over time. It's unfortunate we havent really had that guy step right in and perform at a high level, but at least we've had seasons of good QB play. 2014 and 2015 were rough years breaking in not only new, but young QBs. 2016 will tell a lot if QBs are still progressing under Miles. Harris definitely needs to step it up some this year, but not a whole lot. I think I can see him in that 140-150 QB rating range this season, he was 130 last season.

LSU has traditionally not been a QB destination. We've only had a few in our history. This is absolutely not a Les issue.

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ok so what you're saying is that alvin kamara averaged 6.5 yards per carry as did LF7. So by your logic kamara is as good as lf7.

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no im not saying that but if you want to compare something it's a much better statistic. comparing total stats when someone had 3 times as many carries makes you look bad.

Recruiting the QB isnt the main issue. Developing them, and running an antiquated offense is.

Les has problems gettinf the best out of his talent. That's not just an antecdote, it's proven fact with years and years of proof, and believed by many coaches and media.

its just that they will always almost be there but not quite

Because he likes 3 yards and a cloud of dust and Jarrett lee scarred him for life.

TEs can catch passes?

I don't think they've had trouble recruiting them I just think some have been bad fits. I see dual threat guys running a pro style. I think miles likes athletic qbs buts wants a conventional offense. Most dual threat guys don't make their money passing but with their feet.
I believe les would be more comfortable and more successful with a conventional drop back guy.

With that said he has recruited a couple head scratchers. Andrew hatch?
Maybe the biggest being Stephen rivers. He was being looked at by UNA and middle Tennessee. Then LSU signed him. I remember people talking about rivers signing with LSU with a little chuckle behind it. I think even les would say wtf was I thinking on that one.