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LSU Fans : thoughts on the running back carry split next season?
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:05 pm
Miles loves using a stable of backs, but do you think he will continue that trend next year? He will have the best back in the country in Fournette, one of if not the best backup in Guice and then a capable 3rd back in Williams.
What do you think the carry breakdown will be? I think it will be interesting to see, especially when it comes to how many yards/records Fournette is able to break.
Fournette 70% / Guice 20% / Williams 10%?
Fournette 75% / Guice 20% / Williams 5%?
No Williams at all?
What do you think the carry breakdown will be? I think it will be interesting to see, especially when it comes to how many yards/records Fournette is able to break.
Fournette 70% / Guice 20% / Williams 10%?
Fournette 75% / Guice 20% / Williams 5%?
No Williams at all?
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 2:06 pm
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:10 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Fornett 80
Guice 15
Williams 5
Guice 15
Williams 5
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:12 pm to Easternrio
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Fornett 80
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Fournette 70% / Guice 20% / Williams & Co 10%
Seems about right
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I could see Guice getting a surprising amount of carries. 30-40%. Fournette at 50%...Williams with the rest.
I think with the way fatigue set in last year, you will see an effort to preserve Fournette until November to a greater extent...
I think with the way fatigue set in last year, you will see an effort to preserve Fournette until November to a greater extent...
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:14 pm to Tigerdev
Are there certain packages that Guice will figure more in? I saw him quite a bit but not enough to really know if he would be a guy LSU would split out into the slot (like we did with Drake a lot) or if he would only be a RB only.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I don't expect much to change from a split standpoint. LF will definitely see the lion's share again, likely ~20 carries-per-game. Guice will likely absorb more of the "HB" touches from D. Williams.
If I had to guess, I'd call it Fournette 60-70%/ Guice 25-30%/ DWilliams/Fournette Lite/Brosette ~5-10%.
The more interesting split, I think, will be what number of carries Harris gets. He was second on the team in rushing attempts last season. Granted some of this was scrambling. But I wouldn't be surprised to see his number called a bit more often in the option game.
Also, (this is more of a hope than an expectation) I'm interested to see just how involved the RBs will be in the passing game. Guice may have the best hands in the whole group.
If I had to guess, I'd call it Fournette 60-70%/ Guice 25-30%/ DWilliams/Fournette Lite/Brosette ~5-10%.
The more interesting split, I think, will be what number of carries Harris gets. He was second on the team in rushing attempts last season. Granted some of this was scrambling. But I wouldn't be surprised to see his number called a bit more often in the option game.
Also, (this is more of a hope than an expectation) I'm interested to see just how involved the RBs will be in the passing game. Guice may have the best hands in the whole group.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:16 pm to Guava Jelly
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He was second on the team in rushing attempts last season. Granted some of this was scrambling. But I wouldn't be surprised to see his number called a bit more often in the option game.
I was curious about this last season, as well. Harris is obviously shifty and runs well, but he isn't a real big guy. Is there fear of injury with him running a lot?
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I think Williams sees some carries out of the FB position near the goal line. He'll also get some carries in garbage time. I think fournette has less caries than last year. I could care less about him winning the heisman if it means him carrying the ball 30 times against Jacksonville state.
Hopefully they pull him from games once they get out of hand.
Hopefully they pull him from games once they get out of hand.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
He is pretty shifty but not a "scat" back based on his size. To be honest, we need to improve a great deal in executing passes to our backs and tight ends. If we do, I could see both Fournette and Guice having several designed screens and swing passes mixed in.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
2015
Leonard Fournette - 60%
Derrius Guice - 10%
Darrel Williams - 12%
Brandon Harris - 14%
D.J. Chark - <1%
Nick Brossette - 2%
Trent Domingue - <1%
Donte Jackson - <1%
Travin Dural - 1%
Leonard Fournette - 60%
Derrius Guice - 10%
Darrel Williams - 12%
Brandon Harris - 14%
D.J. Chark - <1%
Nick Brossette - 2%
Trent Domingue - <1%
Donte Jackson - <1%
Travin Dural - 1%
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:19 pm to Tigerdev
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If we do, I could see both Fournette and Guice having several designed screens and swing passes mixed in.
Fournette could be terrifying on PA Boot throw back passes. Get a head of steam out of the flat with only CBs and Safeties out there and LBs trying to chase from behind? Yikes.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Are there certain packages that Guice will figure more in? I saw him quite a bit but not enough to really know if he would be a guy LSU would split out into the slot (like we did with Drake a lot) or if he would only be a RB only.
Guice is has great hands and saw some action in the slot last year. He actually played slot receiver in the high school all American game. It will be big if Guice can give LF a breather early in games with little drop off (which is asking a lot given the talent that LF is, but I think Guice is an incredible back in his own right)
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Is there fear of injury with him running a lot?
There was probably a bit of this and a bit of fear about him turning the ball over as a young QB. Also, and I can't prove this, but it didn't appear that they had a lot of faith in his ability to make strong reads in the option game.
We ran it a bit, but a lot of the time what appeared to be "option" plays were either designed handoffs or keeps, or he was REALLY bad at making the right read.
The limited look we got in the spring seemed to suggest that he may be a bit more involved in the option game. But god knows what's really going to happen in this offense.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Are there certain packages that Guice will figure more in? I saw him quite a bit but not enough to really know if he would be a guy LSU would split out into the slot (like we did with Drake a lot) or if he would only be a RB only.
There will be an effort to get him the ball out of the backfield on screens and dumps, in addition to him spelling LF. A lot of people who watch practice say he has elite hands. I'm hoping he will get touches at FB in two back sets with some designed misdirection.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:24 pm to Guava Jelly
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There was probably a bit of this and a bit of fear about him turning the ball over as a young QB. Also, and I can't prove this, but it didn't appear that they had a lot of faith in his ability to make strong reads in the option game. We ran it a bit, but a lot of the time what appeared to be "option" plays were either designed handoffs or keeps, or he was REALLY bad at making the right read. The limited look we got in the spring seemed to suggest that he may be a bit more involved in the option game. But god knows what's really going to happen in this offense.
Yea - I think people take the read ability/comfort level of QB's for granted, like it is something that just happens and everyone would be good at.
I have to think run/pass options, if they trusted Harris, would be very beneficial to LSU's offense. Even if they are limited to LF carry/BH carry/BH hot route throw or LF in flat throw.........that spreads everything out. And with a dude like LF7, you don't need a ton of space.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:25 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I didn't realize Guice was so big - 5'11'' 222 lbs is not a small man.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:28 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I don't think there will be a fixed percent. It will likely be game by game, depending on the score. Close games, LF will get plenty. Comfortable lead = Guice in garbage time.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:29 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I think people take the read ability/comfort level of QB's for granted, like it is something that just happens and everyone would be good a
Exactly, it's a split second decision that essentially dictates a sizable gain or a big loss. IF your QB can do it effectively, it's tough to stop. But not everyone can do it.
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I have to think run/pass options, if they trusted Harris, would be very beneficial to LSU's offense. Even if they are limited to LF carry/BH carry/BH hot route throw or LF in flat throw.........that spreads everything out. And with a dude like LF7, you don't need a ton of space.
Not to mention the depth of talent at WR and TE. There are plenty of places to go with the ball. It's just about BH getting the coaches to trust him enough to call the plays.
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:33 pm to SummerOfGeorge
OK...rest the horse some...not a bad plan...
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Here is Guice against SCAR. He does not go down easy and almost always makes the first man miss. He is a rare combination of agility, speed and power.
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