Started By
Message

re: LSU-Alabama opponents scoring defense

Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

you realize that's AFTER they played Bama?

It is also AFTER LSU gave three opponents their worst defensive game of the season
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24805 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

Remember that thread I made about Alabama fans freaking out?

...Yeah... All I posted were official defense rankings and they are losing their shite

Why ruin a good argument with facts though..


Very weak. This is actually a good conversation about the comparative and predictive value of various stats. No need to ruin with the "they scared" crap.
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:41 pm to
What?

Alabama scored 31 offensive pts vs Western Kentucky

Alabama scored 41 offensive pts vs Kent State

Alabama scored 27 offensive pts vs Ole Miss

Alabama scored 27 offensive pts vs Kentucky

Alabama scored 27 offense pts vs A&M

But other than all that great post. You only shorted them like 10 PPG
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 12:46 pm
Posted by LoneMDG
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
2747 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:50 pm to
Trying to think, what is a normal amount of offensive drives a team gets in a game?

15 against USCw (1 end of half)
13 against Western Kentucky (1 end of game)
13 against Ole Miss (1 end of game)
12 against Kent State (1 end of half, 1 end of game)
10 against Kentucky (1 end of game)
13 against Arkansas (1 end of half)
13 against Tennessee (1 end of half, 1 end of game)
12 against Texas A&M (1 end of half, 1 end of game)

If Alabama has scored 12 NOTs on the year, that's 12 offensive drives that didn't exist. That's about 1 entire game's worth of offensive drives.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

But other than all that great post. You only shorted them like 10 PPG

If you would take off those crimson shades you might see where I said "your OFFENSE scored"...

Meaning touchdowns.
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

If you would take off those crimson shades you might see where I said "your OFFENSE scored"...

Meaning touchdowns.


You realize that field goals are included in "offensive points", right?
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

No need to ruin with the "they scared" crap.

I posted pure numbers and ranks.

It was your fellow Bama fans who got offended and ruined the thread.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

You realize that field goals are included in "offensive points", right?

Does it add to points per game, sure.

Is it the offense doing the scoring against the defense? Nope, it is not.

ETA:

Some teams have kickers who can kick 55 yarders. Meaning all the offense has to do is make it to the 40ish yard line... stalling out at the 40 isn't very good offense, yet it could still lead to points.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72090 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Is it the offense doing the scoring against the defense? Nope, it is not.


According to basically anyone who talks about football it is.

However, if you'd like to strip FGs out might as well remove point after conversion attempts as well.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72090 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:13 pm to
We ain't going to have anything left of this carcass.
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

We ain't going to have anything left of this carcass.


You just don't understand stats with your crimson Oakleys on.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

However, if you'd like to strip FGs out might as well remove point after conversion attempts as well.

Well that's dumb...

The point after is a direct result of the offense succeeding.

A field goal is a direct result of the offense failing.

Argue against that for me bud... I'll wait
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

The point after is a direct result of the offense succeeding.

A field goal is a direct result of the offense failing


A field goal is the result of the offense successfully reaching territory to score points, just not the maximum amount of points.

An extra point is a failure because you could get 2 points but you only got 1.

Sounds legit
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

A field goal is the result of the offense successfully reaching territory to score points, just not the maximum amount of points.

An extra point is a failure because you could get 2 points but you only got 1.


yeah I'm done here.


You clearly couldn't argue with what I said, so you decided to make completely illogical and ignorant comments...

Nice work bud
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

You clearly couldn't argue with what I said, so you decided to make completely illogical and ignorant comments...


So as long as kick a field goal we can extend our string of Non Offensive Scoring?

Nice
Posted by LoneMDG
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
2747 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:40 pm to
His stats are wrong anyway, what else is he hiding?

Going by his rules of FG's being failures and acting as if NOTs don't count, Alabama scored 21, not 20 on A&M.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

So as long as kick a field goal we can extend our string of Non Offensive Scoring?

Nice


You can bend my words however you'd like boss... I proved my point, and since you can't present a valid counterpoint, you've gone with irrational sarcasm.

Nice
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83334 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:45 pm to
Wisconsin was #1 last season and Alabama and Henry destroyed them. Why should LSU get credit for getting fricked by them this year?
Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:45 pm to
first pageprev pagePage 4 of 6Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter