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re: Link to Ole Miss - NCAA Response

Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:13 pm to
Leo Lewis...sacking an entire football program in the offseason.
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50660 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:14 pm to
This is going to be the end
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26172 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:15 pm to
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Maybe it is just me, but if all he got was permission to hunt on some land IDGAF about this and neither should the NCAA.



The NCAA cares if a recruit's little brother gets free mac and cheese at the dining hall on an OV. They're going to care about them hunting.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:15 pm to
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If so, Freeze is at high risk for a show cause.


Freeze will be getting a 5 year show cause.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:17 pm to
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Maybe it is just me, but if all he got was permission to hunt on some land IDGAF about this and neither should the NCAA.



I do. What if that "land" was something like Tara hunting club? That's high dollar shite right there.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:19 pm to
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Maybe it is just me, but if all he got was permission to hunt on some land IDGAF about this and neither should the NCAA.


Bottom line is, its a benefit that could potentially cause a player to want to go to OM over another school. So, its cheating.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:20 pm to
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8 new allegations (in addition to the original 13), none related to Tunsil's draft night.


If the NCAA doesn't do something about Tunsil, then what will they do? I mean I don't even know what I expect at this point. Penn State was molesting little boys for decades and they got a slap on the wrist.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:21 pm to
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Maybe it is just me, but if all he got was permission to hunt on some land IDGAF about this and neither should the NCAA.

Well you're just using common sense. We have rides, paid for meals, lodging and supposed paid a player who is on recording being offered 60k to LSU and 80k to state and ends up at state. Because all this happened under Freeze and because a former member of his staff introduced Leo to the booster, they want Freeze for a show cause and the university of LOIC.

The only thing on there that makes your eyes pop is the 15k that a kid at a rival school alleges. A kid who didn't even come to OM. OM admits to things that they know are proveable. The fact they don't admit to that means it's not.

Y'all have your fun, we will be hit hard, but deep down you know that if a 5 year investigation was into your program there would be the same stuff if not worse
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:21 pm to
People need to stop bringing Penn State up. That was a civil and law enforcement issue, it had nothing to do with players getting extra benefits and eligibility. The NCAA shouldn't have done jack shite.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:23 pm to
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Bottom line is, its a benefit that could potentially cause a player to want to go to OM over another school. So, its cheating.

Besides the point that you think hunting land sways recruits and money doesn't get tossed around... if a kid commits elsewhere, does that not mean the other school offered him benefits using you logic?
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:23 pm to
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The NCAA shouldn't have done jack shite.


That's why they have the umbrella "Institutional Control" violation. It's the RICO of college sports. They could make a legitimate argument on those grounds. Whether you think they should is a different issue, but they did have the power to do so.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:25 pm to
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Maybe it is just me, but if all he got was permission to hunt on some land IDGAF about this and neither should the NCAA.





Slippery slope, but you're missing the major point of that allegation. The football staff arranged for the booster and prospective athlete to meet and for the prospective athlete to have access to the booster's land (and the booster to have access to the prospective athlete). We know about the access to the land, but we don't know what, if anything, happened on that property that can't be traced.

That's the slippery slope. Give access to hunting land and the kid finds cash in his room. Give access to booster property and then there are girls and drugs accessible there.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:26 pm to
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I do. What if that "land" was something like Tara hunting club? That's high dollar shite right there.


That's why I put the disclaimer on it.

Managed club land would be a different story.

Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:30 pm to
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Besides the point that you think hunting land sways recruits and money doesn't get tossed around... if a kid commits elsewhere, does that not mean the other school offered him benefits using you logic?


My response was to the poster who said using hunting land shouldnt be a violation. And it should be a violation. It doesnt matter where the player in question ended up going. That just makes it even more laughable actually.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25270 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:30 pm to
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Leo Lewis...sacking an entire football program in the offseason.


Would be shocked if any of Leo Lewis shite sticks.
Posted by Barney Rubble
Hattiesburg MS
Member since Oct 2010
825 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:31 pm to
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Penn State was molesting little boys for decades and they got a slap on the wrist.


Molesting little boys, while despicable, is not an NCAA violation.
Posted by NeilieN
Member since May 2014
13 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:31 pm to
The night they drove old dixie down...
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17716 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:32 pm to
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supposed paid a player who is on recording being offered 60k to LSU and 80k to state and ends up at state


I'm not kicking you when your down, but c'mon man.
This story was perpetrated by the very mouthpieces that have so obviously lied to y'all for over 2 years. There's an audio recording? Sounds completely verifiable and authentic
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 4:33 pm to
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Would be shocked if any of Leo Lewis shite sticks.


That's not how the NOA works. By the time they get to that point, the NCAA is pretty certain the things in it will stick.
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