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Like it or not - Brandon Allen was one of the best QB's in the country in 2015
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:40 am
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:40 am
I'm getting tired of rantards saying otherwise when they probably watched only one or two Arkansas games last year. Yes, Brandon Allen was one of the best QB's in the nation last year. You may not allow yourself to believe it, but that doesn't matter.
He had the highest QBR in the entire nation playing in the toughest division with better defensive play than any other division or conference in the nation. That should end the discussion. But I know some rantards will say QBR is voodoo or that Allen simply benefited from being a "game manager" in a pro-style offense, similar to Bama QB's. Well, QBR is not voodoo and Brandon Allen was a fricking playmaker.
Just some examples of how he "game managed" Arkansas:
Against Ole Miss: 33/45 442 yards 6 TD 0 Int
Against MSU: 30/43 406 yards 7 TD 0 Int
Against KSU in bowl: 20/26 315 yards 1 TD 1 Int
And if that's not enough, Brandon Allen was one of two QB's who earned the Manning Award Star of the Week twice last season https://www.allstatesugarbowl.org/site884.php).
I wish I didn't have to make this thread, but some people refuse to accept reality or educate themselves before shitting on their keyboard.
He had the highest QBR in the entire nation playing in the toughest division with better defensive play than any other division or conference in the nation. That should end the discussion. But I know some rantards will say QBR is voodoo or that Allen simply benefited from being a "game manager" in a pro-style offense, similar to Bama QB's. Well, QBR is not voodoo and Brandon Allen was a fricking playmaker.
Just some examples of how he "game managed" Arkansas:
Against Ole Miss: 33/45 442 yards 6 TD 0 Int
Against MSU: 30/43 406 yards 7 TD 0 Int
Against KSU in bowl: 20/26 315 yards 1 TD 1 Int
And if that's not enough, Brandon Allen was one of two QB's who earned the Manning Award Star of the Week twice last season https://www.allstatesugarbowl.org/site884.php).
I wish I didn't have to make this thread, but some people refuse to accept reality or educate themselves before shitting on their keyboard.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 11:42 am
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:42 am to Jon Ham
Sounds like you got sailed on.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:42 am to Jon Ham
Somebody rustled you real good
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:43 am to Jon Ham
You should go outside, stand on your roof and yell everything you just typed.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:43 am to Jon Ham
I agree with you. He was a baller last year.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:48 am to Jon Ham
It worked with that system . Is he one of the best in the country? If you count being in the top 10-15 being the best ? That answer will be yes
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:54 am to Jon Ham
He was very good in that system.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:57 am to Jon Ham
He's gone now and Arkansas will suck.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:59 am to Jon Ham
It seems weird that you would argue this right before the new season starts. Are you trying to convince us that his loss will be a considerable setback? I kind of think it will and agree he was underrated
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:59 am to Jon Ham
I'm on here quite a bit and I haven't seen anyone talk about BA. It doesn't even matter, brah. AA is the guy now, let's talk about him. Can he work the pocket, can he find Sprink or Morgan on 3rd and 8 to save a drive, and can he hit Reed on a deep go. That's all that matters
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:01 pm to JesusQuintana
System? You mean pro-style, which is the toughest system for a QB to run when it comes to passing? If we want to take system into account, that's just another point in BA's favor. He didn't sit in shotgun 95% of the time throwing high % quick screens half the time like so many college QB's do nowadays. He had to read defenses and make all sorts of difficult throws, including rolling out to his left on play action fakes such as this - LINK
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:03 pm to Jon Ham
Congratulations
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:05 pm to Jon Ham
SEC pocket passers since 2000.
Listed in order of QBR. Bolded stats indicate best out of group, underlined indicates worst.
AJ McCarron (JR) - 2,933 passing yards, 67.2 com%, 30 TD, 3 INT, 175.3 RAT
Aaron Murray (JR) - 3,893 passing yards, 64.5 cmp%, 36 TD, 10 INT, 174.8 RAT
Zach Mettenberger (SR) - 3,082 passing yards, 64.9 cmp%, 22 TD, 8 INT, 171.4 RAT
Rex Grossman (SOPH) - 3,896 passing yards, 65.6 cmp%, 34 TD, 12 INT, 170.8 RAT
JaMarcus Russell (JR) - 3,129 passing yards, 67.8 cmp%, 28 TD, 8 INT, 167.0 RAT
Brandon Allen (SR ) - 3,125 passing yards, 65.1 cmp%, 29 TD, 7 INT, 165.2 RAT
Ryan Mallett (SR) - 3,869 passing yards, 64.7 cmp%, 32 TD, 12 INT, 163.6 RAT
Matt Stafford (JR) - 3,459 passing yards, 61.4 cmp%, 25 TD, 10 INT, 153.5 RAT
Eli Manning (SR ) - 3,600 passing yards, 62.4 cmp%, 29 TD, 10 INTm 148.1 RAT
Tyler Bray (JR) - 3,612 passing yards, 59.4 cmp%, 34 TD, 12 INT, 146.3 RAT
Andre Woodson (SR) - 3,709 passing yards, 63.1 cmp%, 40 TD, 11 INT, 144.5 RAT
Listed in order of QBR. Bolded stats indicate best out of group, underlined indicates worst.
AJ McCarron (JR) - 2,933 passing yards, 67.2 com%, 30 TD, 3 INT, 175.3 RAT
Aaron Murray (JR) - 3,893 passing yards, 64.5 cmp%, 36 TD, 10 INT, 174.8 RAT
Zach Mettenberger (SR) - 3,082 passing yards, 64.9 cmp%, 22 TD, 8 INT, 171.4 RAT
Rex Grossman (SOPH) - 3,896 passing yards, 65.6 cmp%, 34 TD, 12 INT, 170.8 RAT
JaMarcus Russell (JR) - 3,129 passing yards, 67.8 cmp%, 28 TD, 8 INT, 167.0 RAT
Brandon Allen (SR ) - 3,125 passing yards, 65.1 cmp%, 29 TD, 7 INT, 165.2 RAT
Ryan Mallett (SR) - 3,869 passing yards, 64.7 cmp%, 32 TD, 12 INT, 163.6 RAT
Matt Stafford (JR) - 3,459 passing yards, 61.4 cmp%, 25 TD, 10 INT, 153.5 RAT
Eli Manning (SR ) - 3,600 passing yards, 62.4 cmp%, 29 TD, 10 INTm 148.1 RAT
Tyler Bray (JR) - 3,612 passing yards, 59.4 cmp%, 34 TD, 12 INT, 146.3 RAT
Andre Woodson (SR) - 3,709 passing yards, 63.1 cmp%, 40 TD, 11 INT, 144.5 RAT
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:08 pm to Jon Ham
That was AJ's senior season. His Junior season (2012) was his best.
AJ McCarron (JR) - 2,933 passing yards (9.3 YPA), 67.2 com%, 30 TD, 3 INT, 175.3 RAT
Nationally 2012
#1 QB Rating
#1 in TD/INT Ratio
#2 Yards Per Attempt
#17 Completion %
That was a really good year for SEC QBs
QB Rating Nationally
#1 - AJ McCarron, Bama (175.3)
#2 - Aaron Murray, UGA (174.8)
#9 - Connor Shaw, SC (158.1)
#15 - Johnny Manziel, A&M (155.3)
#29 - Tyler Bray, TN (146.3)
#34 - Tyler Wilson, ARK (143.8)
#37 - Bo Wallace, OM (142.7)
#46 - Jordan Rodgers, VAN (139.1)
AJ McCarron (JR) - 2,933 passing yards (9.3 YPA), 67.2 com%, 30 TD, 3 INT, 175.3 RAT
Nationally 2012
#1 QB Rating
#1 in TD/INT Ratio
#2 Yards Per Attempt
#17 Completion %
That was a really good year for SEC QBs
QB Rating Nationally
#1 - AJ McCarron, Bama (175.3)
#2 - Aaron Murray, UGA (174.8)
#9 - Connor Shaw, SC (158.1)
#15 - Johnny Manziel, A&M (155.3)
#29 - Tyler Bray, TN (146.3)
#34 - Tyler Wilson, ARK (143.8)
#37 - Bo Wallace, OM (142.7)
#46 - Jordan Rodgers, VAN (139.1)
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Thanks, fixed.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:14 pm to Jon Ham
This is big news !!
In related news, his younger brother sucks.
In related news, his younger brother sucks.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:14 pm to Jon Ham
Brandon Allen was very very good college QB. Great touch, great ability to move around inside the pocket and throw on the run, got better every year. Anyone who says otherwise is a rantard.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:21 pm to sunseeker
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I agree with you. He was a baller last year.
I agree with this.
When he first started playing I was unimpressed, but he matured and became a very good SEC QB.
Anyone else saying anything different is just kidding themselves.
Will his brother be as good, the jury is still out.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:41 pm to Jon Ham
Yes, I mean the system that Arkansas runs.
Was it that hard to understand?
Was it that hard to understand?
Posted on 7/24/16 at 12:49 pm to JesusQuintana
You were the second person to state BA was good for the system. Usually when people qualify like that they're implying he's a system QB, meaning he's not a great QB on his own but that he simply benefits from the system.
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