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re: Let's say the Leo Lewis stuff is thrown out by the NCAA

Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:11 pm to
quote:


Giving kids free swag isn't against the law.


but perjury is against the law.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17716 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:11 pm to
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Are you arguing that he's not SA#39?


No.

But I'm not stating that he is SA#39 either. I don't want to be in that lawsuit.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:12 pm to
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I don't know what that means

The university agrees with a lot of the Leo Lewis stuff. But if that RR stuff is bogus, the whole thing is. That's what your argument seems like.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:13 pm to
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but perjury is against the law


Perjury? Who's taken an oath or testified in court?

Did I miss something?
Posted by DeathPenalty
H-Town
Member since Apr 2016
399 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:13 pm to
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Leo withdrawing his testimony is a big deal


So Leo tricked OM into self imposing penalties? Leo one smart cookie.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:13 pm to
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But I'm not stating that he is SA#39 either. I don't want to be in that lawsuit.




This is my favorite part....


Please tell me where it's illegal to release that Leo is SA#39?

Last time that I asked for this....someone made up something called Herpa.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:14 pm to
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Perjury? Who's taken an oath or testified in court?



Come on....I don't believe that you're this stupid.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:17 pm to
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someone made up something called Herpa.


A typo that changes Ferpa to Herpa is just as egregious as the "false" claims you attribute to Leo.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17716 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:18 pm to
per·ju·ry


/'p?rj(?)re/


noun
Law

noun: perjury; plural noun: perjuries

the offense of willfully telling an untruth in a court after having taken an oath or affirmation
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:19 pm to
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A typo that changes Ferpa to Herpa is just as egregious as the "false" claims you attribute to Leo.



So specific claims in testimony by Leo is the same as a typo?


Well shite.... all of our violations the NCAA claims to have found were just a typo then.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:19 pm to
Good...I'm glad that you understand what perjury means. Now maybe attribute that definition to the context of the discussion.
Posted by SouthOfHere
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Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:22 pm to
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m not reading this right I don't think, but if an actual justice court says you are wrong, you are wrong by the actual law. That takes precedent over the ncaa which is why the ncaa hands PSU and Baylor like cases to actual justice courts.




Um, no. People are cleared in criminal court then found liable in civil courts quite often.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:29 pm to
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So specific claims in testimony by Leo


And the dance continues. Proof of these claims, please.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:31 pm to
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And the dance continues. Proof of these claims, please.



So you're saying that he didn't make these claims that are included in the NOA?
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:32 pm to
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The other shite can be disproven


It's sad that you actually believe this to be true.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30174 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:33 pm to
This piddly little Mom 'n Pop store vs a couple is teenage athletes ain't going to court. No one can prove the teenagers willfully disparaged the business or caused future earnings to suffer resulting in the store closing shop. Ole Miss had a sucky season last year, the "bloom" of the Freeze regime has faded, Ole Miss self imposed a bowl ban this year based on the Leo Lewis/Barney Farrar allegations in the amended NOA.....anybody's business that depends on OM Football is going to suffer in a college town like Oxford.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:33 pm to
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So you're saying that he didn't make these claims that are included in the NOA?




this whole thing is ridiculous. Yes, he made claims that are in the NOA. Ole Miss side thinks those claims are false (biased) and that RR's lawsuit will prove they are false and will somehow result in relief from NCAA (won't). Everyone else thinks the claims are true (biased) and understands that the burden is on plaintiff to prove claims are false, that any harm was caused by these claims and not something else, and (the doozy) that conspiracy took place (good luck with all three of those).
Posted by peepingcrxxms
Sumrall, MS
Member since Aug 2016
848 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:34 pm to
Let's get a few facts straight, genius.


1.) LL identified the make and model of the booster's car, and the booster's appearance.

2.) There is a fricking text message that implicates the booster paying LL.

3.) The booster met with LL multiple times.

4.) Your COACH set up LL with a booster.

5.) He is a kid that didn't think he was going to be testifying a year later about minute details of your school paying him. Picking apart the words "wad of cash" and "bag of cash" or whatever the frick that lame arse defense was is absolutely hilarious.

6.) I can set my email up to send it at any time I want, whether I'm there or not. So can anyone else in the world that is not a fricking retard.


This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 2:37 pm
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:36 pm to
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It's easy to prove that they don't use security tags. It's easy to prove that they didn't have an employee by the name of Emily. It's easy to prove that no gift cards were used on the dates and for the amounts specified by Leo Lewis during his testimony.


All are considered insignificant facts that will be totally ignored by any judge. Witness testimony almost always has little factoids like this that are incorrect or inconsistent. The point is, RR can not prove that this was done for slanderous purposes even if LL was lying about all of it.

RR will lose this case.
Posted by pankReb
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64417 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:37 pm to
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Everyone else thinks the claims are true (biased) and understands that the burden is on plaintiff to prove claims are false



No...Everyone realizes that the burden is on the plaintiff. We just also realize that RR has legitimate proof against the claims that Leo made. Others refuse to believe this to be even a remote possibility.

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